"ALL CAPS IN DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE."

Monday, December 26, 2005

WHICH IS MORE REPRESSIVE: FRANCE, THE UK, AND CANADA; OR THE USA?

THOMAS BRAY (via RealClearPolitics):
Spying on e-mail and cell phone traffic without a warrant. Searching offices and residences without a court order. Locking citizens away for weeks or months without filing charges.

Sound like your worst nightmare about the supposedly lawless Bush administration? Perhaps. But I refer to restrictions on civil liberties that are taking place not in the United States but, in the order in which I cited them, Canada, France and Great Britain.

All three countries are cited as moral superiors to the rogue regime in Washington, where the fascist leaders George Bush and Dick Cheney are said to be intent on fastening a reign of terror on the United States. But a brief scan of newspaper websites in those countries – something that the American mainstream media could easily have done before unleashing its own reign of terror on unsuspecting readers -- reveals that their governments have in many cases gone far beyond where the Bush-Cheney could ever dream of going.
WHERE'S THE OUTRAGE FROM THE LEFT!? WHERE ARE THE ACLU LAW SUITS AND THE THREATS TO DRAG THESE GOVERNMENTS INTO THE ICC!? Could there be a DOUBLE STANDARD, and a little HYPOCRISY, too, from the Left and the MSM they still dominate!?

Bray concludes:
The hysteria over Bush’s use of the National Security Agency to monitor international communications is thus likely to fade as an issue, much as the he-lied-us-into-war hysteria of prior months faded in significance as it became apparent that most of his congressional critics had interpreted the intelligence about weapons of mass destruction in exactly the same fashion as the administration.

How to balance civil liberties and national security is a subject of legitimate dispute. But Americans deserve more perspective on the matter than they are getting from Bush’s critics and their megaphones in the liberal press.
Well said! RTWT.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

And this relevant because.....?

Last I heard, the alleged wrongdoing was committed in the US, not Canada, France, or the UK.

Reliapundit said...

kittie: it is relevant because it shows that the critics of bush and the patrito act and the NSA surveillance are LOONS who are more paranoid of "king george busHitlerbiurton" than al qaeda and more critical of him than our revered neighbors and allies who have less liberty.


you know kittie - as well as i do -that MANy BDS afflicted LOONS have threatened to move to canada or the Uk because of "king george busHitlerbirton".

this column demontsrates why that feeling is LUNACY.

Anonymous said...

yes reliapundit, because inorder to fight terrorism, we have view peoples privit library and medical records without probable cause, and incriminate them and hold them for years without charging them, or granting them a speedy and fair trial.

any one who says we should grant our own citizens the 4th 5th and 6th amendments are traitors and deserve to be executed on the spot!!!


screw Canada and the United Kingdom with their clean enviornments and free Healthcare, and low crime rates. that must be a hell on earth.

Anonymous said...

yes reliapundit, because inorder to fight terrorism, we have view peoples privit library and medical records without probable cause, and incriminate them and hold them for years without charging them, or granting them a speedy and fair trial.

any one who says we should grant our own citizens the 4th 5th and 6th amendments are traitors and deserve to be executed on the spot!!!


screw Canada and the United Kingdom with their clean enviornments and free Healthcare, and low crime rates. that must be a hell on earth.rates. that must be a hell on earth.

Gandalin said...

Spartan,

The United Kingdom does NOT have a low crime rate.

Anonymous said...

That is a very debatable subject Gandalin

Which areas of crime are you talking about in particualr?

if your talking about murder, then the UK is significantly lower,

if you're talking about robery it is significantly higher.

hit me, I'm alwayse up for a good fight.

Reliapundit said...

THE UK HAS VERY HIGH VIOLENT CRIME RATE.
AND IT WENT UP AFTER STRICT GUN CONTROL LAWS.

YOU CAN GOOGLE IT.

I'VE POSTED ON IT ON MY BLOG TOO.

Anonymous said...

oh I have googled it, and I find only a few sites supporting your claims. As I said before it's a highly debatable subject.

As to your conclusion that the gun control laws increased violnce I agree, don't assume my arguments before I make them, I find it highly irratating. My point behind this was they have a reletivly low violent crime rate as co\mpared with the rest of Europe, not because of gun control, but because of an exelent police force.

besides which the crime rate is not important i think we've gone off topic a bit, I thought the point of this post was about the USA patriot act, an Ironic name as it gives the constitution the middle finger. I find it funny that you choose to debate the crime rates of other countries rather than my original point that we don't need the patriot act to fight terrorism.