Thursday, September 07, 2006


A severely brain-damaged woman in an unresponsive, vegetative state showed clear signs of conscious awareness on brain imaging tests, researchers are reporting today, in a finding that could have far-reaching consequences for how unconscious patients are cared for and diagnosed.

In response to commands, the patient’s brain flared with activity, lighting the same language and planning regions that are active when healthy people hear the commands. Previous studies had found similar activity in partly conscious patients, who occasionally respond to commands, but never before in someone who was totally unresponsive.
The term and the condition "vegtative state" may turn out to be entirely bogus.

We'll never know. Her estranged and very Left-wing husband made sure of that.


Joe Yangtree said...

Also from the article, "Ms. Schiavo suffered far more profound brain damage than the woman in the study and was unresponsive for some 15 years, according to neurologists who examined her." I'm just saying.

Reliapundit said...

perhaps terri was a little more vegetative than this woman, but we will never know for sure. her estranged husband did not allow many tests to be performed. had he not been so eager to have her starved to death she could have easily lived, and livied long enough ton have this test.

if you wee in a coma/"vegetative state" would you want your ex-wife making life and death decisions for you? i would not.

i find it fascinating that lefties who blame humanity/industrialism/capitalism for global warming, support abortion on demand, and fear bush more than binladen, take the side of an estranged husband who wanted his ex-wife slowly starved to death.

the left is wrong on everything.


global warming is natural;
life begins at CONCEPTION;
capitalism and industrialism are chiefly responsible for humanity's ever-increasingly IMPROVED living standards and longer life-spans;
bush is protecting us and our liberty - whereas binladenism has killed hundreds of thousands and placed mjillions under tyranny;
and terri was murdered in a cruel and horrifing way - with the appproval of the state.

Joe Yangtree said...

"we will never know for sure"
Actually, the autopsy was quite thorough and conclusive. I like how you make "far more profound" into "a little more vegitative".

All of your "global warming is natural is a fact" craziness has been dealt with repeatedly.

Reliapundit said...

were previous global warming epoch caused by suv's?

3 million yearts ago? 400 years ago?

please: explain.

Joe Yangtree said...

Already answered here in point #2. Let me add another restatement of this answer (copied directly from yet another time when I answered you on this):

If I go burn down a tree would you deny the man-made cause? Trees have burned down before man ever existed due to natural causes. Just because I specifically set this one on fire with a match is no reason for you to believe that it wasn’t a lightning strike that did it. Just because something happened in the past for one reason doesn’t mean that it can’t happen again for a different reason. Except for you, I guess.

Reliapundit said...

there is debate as to whether the current trend is anthropgenic; it is not an established fact.

leading authorities at the max planck inst claim it is mostly solar; in fact this makes the most sense since right now mars and other planets are also experiencing a warming trend. humans could not have caused that.

Joe Yangtree said...

Do you ever do anything but recycle arguments I've already refuted? Same link as above, but point #1 this time. Summary reprinted:

Perhaps you'd like to consider the synopsis of that study on their website. It is, "Studies at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research reveal: solar activity affects the climate but plays only a minor role in the current global warming ... researchers at the MPS have shown that the Sun can be responsible for, at most, only a small part of the warming over the last 20-30 years." That's from your source, The Max Planck Institute.

Joe Yangtree said...

As for Mars, here's a link explaining the fairly recent, localized, seasonal change on Mars. It's not a planet-wide trend there. Also, if there was a solar event causing Mars' warming and our warming, then all the planets would be experiencing it. Do you have a link showing this? You didn't provide one at all, so I don't really have any reason to take your claim seriously.

Joe Yangtree said...

Let me also note that I love how you go from "FACT:global warming is natural" to "there is debate as to whether the current trend is anthropgenic; it is not an established fact." That's a pretty big rhetorical retreat in the space of 2 posts.

Reliapundit said...

1 - FACT: history and pre-history prove beyond any and all reasonable doubt that global-warming is natural - it having occured several times before humanity existed, and before humanity was industrialized.

2 - FACT" the current trend has generated debate. some - like you - argue that it is anthropogenic. there are, inarguably new anthropogenic inputs, but this does not equate with causality, irreversibility, or reversiblilty.

3 - no sane person argues that kyoto would've made a damn difference.

4 - NASA has proven that most of the planets are warming nowe - SIMULTANEOULY:

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/pluto_warming_021009.html --- :

"In what is largely a reversal of an August announcement, astronomers today said Pluto is undergoing global warming in its thin atmosphere even as it moves farther from the Sun on its long, odd-shaped orbit."

MARS: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/07/global-warming-becomes-contagious.html

"Not only that, but Jupiter and Neptune's largest moon, Triton, are undergoing global warming as well. Not coincidentally, the sun has been emitting more heat for the last several decades."

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/triton.html --- :

"MIT researcher finds evidence of global warming on Neptune's largest moon

June 24, 1998

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. -- We're not the only ones experiencing global warming. A Massachusetts Institute of Technology researcher has reported that observations obtained by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope and ground-based instruments reveal that Neptune's largest moon, Triton, seems to have heated up significantly since the Voyager space probe visited it in 1989. The warming trend is causing part of Triton's surface of frozen nitrogen to turn into gas, thus making its thin atmosphere denser.

While no one is likely to plan a summer vacation on Triton, this report in the June 25 issue of the journal Nature by MIT astronomer James L. Elliot and his colleagues from MIT, Lowell Observatory and Williams College says that the moon is approaching an unusually warm summer season that only happens once every few hundred years. Elliot and his colleagues believe that Triton's warming trend could be driven by seasonal changes in the absorption of solar energy by its polar ice caps."

---- MORE HERE: http://motls.blogspot.com/2006/05/global-warming-on-jupiter.html --- lobal warming on Jupiter


A new storm and a new red spot on Jupiter hints at climate change, USA TODAY and dozens of other sources explained yesterday. The temperatures are expected to change by as much as 10 Fahrenheit degrees at different places of the globe. At least close to the new spot and to the equator, nothing less than global warming is expected.


Triton is Neptune's largest Moon. Some people believe that it used to be an asteroid. Global warming was detected on Triton. Between 1989 and 1998, the temperature jumped by 5 percent on the absolute (Kelvin) scale. The same relative increase would raise the Earth's temperature by 22 degrees Fahrenheit in 9 years. See thousands of other pages about the global warming on Triton.


Another moon of Saturn's, Enceladus, would be also expected to be frozen and cold. Suddenly, Cassini has informed us that Enceladus generates its own heat. Its high temperatures seem to be incompatible with calculations based on solar energy itself, according to existing models.


Saturn itself has a rather warm southern pole, and the temperatures in that region suddenly jumped by 3-5 Kelvin degrees. Well, it's warm because it's been exposed to sunshine for quite some time but the magnitude of the temperature jumps is not trivial to calculate.


What's going on with Pluto? Well, yes, your guess is right. There is global warming on Pluto. Pluto's atmospheric pressure has tripled in 14 years, and the associated increase of temperature is estimated to be around 3.5 Fahrenheit degrees, despite the motion of Pluto away from the Sun.


Of course, the global warming on Mars is a well-known story. The warming has been used by this blog to discover the Martians. More seriously, we have explained that the dramatic and speedy melting of the Martian icecaps is caused by the greenhouse effect. 95% of "their" atmosphere is made of carbon dioxide; that's slightly more than 0.038% of our atmosphere.

The warming trend on Mars is undeniable. Some people have tried to blame the global warming on NASA's rovers. Such accusations are pretty serious because NASA is already preparing plans to occupy Mars using the greenhouse effect, as ordered by George Bush. ;-)


Venus, our planet's evil sister, has already been identified as unusable for life because of ... yes, because of the greenhouse effect that occured in the past. Last month, the Venus express gave us some new hints why Venus has such a thick atmosphere that generated global warming.

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/060504_red_jr.html --- :

"The latest images could provide evidence that Jupiter is in the midst of a global change that can modify temperatures by as much as 10 degrees Fahrenheit on different parts of the globe."

JOE YANGTREE: WAKE UP! Stop swallowing the leftist garbage jerks like gore want you to believe. Anthropogenic global warming is an excuse for leftists to take control of the world economy.

Joe Yangtree said...

#1 -- See a few comments back for my refutation of this or here (point #2) again. Just repeating a logistic falacy over and over does not make it more true.

#2 -- Some, like all the major US scientific institutions that I have listed. What scientific organizations believe your ideas?

#3 -- I have never argued that Kyoto is a valid solution. We need alternative solutions, but we'll never get them unless there is agreement on the problem.

#4 Several of your quotes even have the different resons for the warming in them, none of which are remotely relevant to Earth. In any event, my complete answer is here.