"ALL CAPS IN DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE."

Saturday, February 18, 2012

THE BOSS SHOULD STICK TO MUSIC AND LEAVE POLITICS TO PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH FACTS

TIM BLAIR:

The Boss goes all svag and hopplöst
Bruce Springsteen wants to see the United States transformed into something closer to a Swedish-style welfare state, the rock legend said Thursday ...
During a press conference in Paris, The Boss explained that much of the inspiration for his new album, set for release on March 6th, is anger at what he sees as the crushing of the American Dream in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.
“I have friends who lost everything they had,” Springsteen explained, according to the Dagens Nyhter newspaper. 
Luckily, Bruce can help them out
When asked if he thought the United States should be changed into something closer to a Swedish-style welfare state, Springsteen responded enthusiastically …
TRUTH:
Sweden's economy booms with cautious turn to the right
 June 14, 2011

Swedish Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt is a conservative in the manner of Britain's David Cameron, according to David Frum. 
Sweden is making a political right turn, in a very Swedish way: cautiously, consensually, unflamboyantly. But decisively even so. 
One of contenders for the most highly taxed country in the Western world has cut taxes significantly since 2006. Tight fiscal policy has pushed the public sector's share of GDP back down toward 50%. The economy is growing, the budget is balanced, unemployment is declining. 
The governing center-right coalition was re-elected last year; the once dominant Social Democrats suffered their worst defeat since before World War I.
BRUCE SHOULD LEARN THAT WHAT IS BANKRUPTING EUROPEAN NATIONS IS NOT THEIR "BUSH TAX CUTS" - THEY HAD NONE. AND NOT THEIR "UNFUNDED WARS" - THEY HAD NONE. AND NOT THEIR "OUT OF CONTROL MILITARY SPENDING" - THEY HAVE NONE.

WHAT IS BANKRUPTING EUROPEAN NATIONS IS THEIR WELFARE STATES.

DOES BRUCE REALLY WANT THAT HERE?

THEY DON'T WANT US BANKRUPT BUT THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA AND HIS COMRADES ARE DOING TO THE USA: THEY ARE TURNING US INTO A EURO-SOCIALIST STATE AND IT IS BANKRUPTING US.

IT'S THE ROAD TO RUIN - TO SERFDOM.

IT'S A ONE-WAY TICKET TO GREECE.

IF YOU DON'T WANT BANKRUPTCY - BUT WANT DO WANT PROSPERITY, THEN... VOTE ACCORDINGLY.

10 comments:

Juniper in the Desert said...

He does NOT play music and anyone that thinks he does IS a natural obozo voter! Yech!!

Pastorius said...

I think that, if you look at the history of Bruce Springsteen's statements on the economy in the United States, every fucking time he has ever opened his mouth he has essentially said the exact same thing he has said here:

"... anger at what he sees as the crushing of the American Dream ..."

He's a scrunt.

Pastorius said...

I'm in agreement with Juniper on his music as well. He fucking sucks.

Fuck Bruce Springsteen.

Reliapundit said...

yup

Always On Watch said...

Ever checked the price of tickets for a Springsteen concert? Not cheap. Not by a long shot.

So, when is The Boss giving tickets away? Every time, I mean.

Zeb said...

First off, I thought democracy was about allowing people to have opinions, and that quieting people with opinions that don't fit your own view on the world was.. dictatorical.

Anyway, since I am familiar with facts, I know that the reason Sweden has managed not become bankrupt is that during the social democratic years they built up a budget surplus that the right wing-government now has reduced to almost nothing because of their tax cuts. They have also managed to increase the difference between poor and rich, the poorest 10% of the population now have less to live on than before at the same time as the richest 10% have increased their income drastically. The amount of people living below the poverty line in Sweden has doubled since the right-wing government took power.

Those are the facts.

And the reason other european nations have poor economies is partly for the same reason the USA has, because their banks have low liquidity, and partly because of a corrupt system with bribes and unwillingness to pay tax. Many investigations have show that the best way to cope with economic crisis is to increase government spending.
So, you gotta know the facts...

Reliapundit said...

zeb -

u r an effin dupe.

sovereign debt crisis can'r be solved with more spending.

u idiot.

and the sovereigns in europe did not spend it on the military or tax cuts, the 2 excuses leftist scum like you use here to BLAME BUSH!

sweden didn't make right turn cuz their leftist policies were working well.


HERE --- 2007:

Long infamous for its high tax level - forcing celebrities like tennis legend Bjorn Borg to flee to tax havens such as Monaco -- Sweden is now becoming a more competitive economy.

Much credit for this development belongs to the new center-right government of Fredrik Reinfeldt. The 41-year-old economist assumed the prime minister job last October, leading a four-party coalition of the Moderate, Center, Liberal People's, and Christian Democrat parties. He succeeded Goran Persson, the Social Democrat who had ruled Sweden for a decade.

"They are very focused on the economy and job creation," Johan Norberg, a native of Sweden and the author of the international best seller In Defense of Global Capitalism, says of the new government.

Reinfeldt's policies could come right out of the playbook of Margaret Thatcher and President Reagan. The new Swedish prime minister has implemented a series of reforms, including tax cuts on personal income, abolishing wealth taxes, lowering property taxes, lowering unemployment benefits (among the highest in the world), privatizing state companies and services, and looking at lifting monopolies like the one held by Apoteket (a state-run pharmacy chain).

It may be too early to see the results of Reinfeldt's overhaul, but there are optimistic signs.

"Sweden is likely to be more competitive," says Berit Salheim, managing director of the American Chamber of Commerce in Sweden.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/5/23/110622.shtml?s=os

HERE --- 2011:

MAR 29 2011

SWEDEN’S CONSERVATIVE TURNAROUND
by Lotta Moberg and Richard W. Rahn


After decades of liberal, socialist policies, Swedes saw the writing on the wall and turned from welfare to tax cuts and belt tightening. Is there a lesson for the rest of the world in their success?

There is a conservative model for countries trying to get out of the current financial and economic crisis. Surprise – that model is Sweden.

Some four decades ago, Sweden became the global poster child for a rich, democratic welfare state. It was also well on its way to spending itself into financial pauper-hood. But before going over the financial cliff, the Swedes made many necessary corrections, all without having to endure the kinds of painful austerity measures, street protests, and riots roiling much of Europe.

As a result, Sweden is in far better economic and fiscal shape and has recovered from the global recession much faster than most countries. The Swedish economy grew at a rate of about 5 percent in 2010, and a blistering 8.7 percent in the last quarter of 2010, compared to the estimated 1.7 percent for the rest of Europe area and 2.8 percent in the United States for the year.

http://puffwealth.com/news/swedens_conservative_turnaround

ZEB:

WAKE UP OR FUCK OFF.

northern seer said...

@zeb:
you're description of what happenned with the swedish economy is far from the truth. no matter how you pick your facts and bend your interpretations to fit your prejudices it will not change the truth:

the truth is that when the financial crisis hit in 2008 the swedish economy took a huge dive. the swdeish kronor fell 25 to 30 %. this led to a lot of short term problems for swedes - except for those who worked in copenhagen. danes and norwegians streamed over the border to bargain hunt in sweden.
And the Housing Bubble never had the chance to blow up as much as neighboring countries - therefore there was less of a downturn in realestate and banking sectors.

after the initial shock the Swedish economy recovered and suddenly everyone was pointing to Sweden and Germany as the best economies in europe.

Now the pendulum is swinging back and both Germany and Sweden are experiencing a slowdown.

But the only reason Sweden's economy enjoyed strength was because their real estate market was not extremely overvalued and they did not have the EURO hanging around their neck.

Anyone who thinks it was because of the actions of the inept and corrupt socialists (mona sahlin et al) is nothing more than a FOOL!

Zeb said...

Reliapundit-

I will only make a short comment, since it's late and I have to sleep.
According to a whole bunch of economists, that's exactly how to solve a crisis. Ever heard of triple-down effects? In a crisis, a government can decide to spend money on, say infrastruture. They decide to build a new railway for 10 billion. This may generate like 50 billion to the state over the coming years. First by tax income from the people directly involved in building the railway. Then there will be investments around the new railway. From suppliers, house-builders, increase in value for estates along the railway, increased commuting/transporting goods etc. Therefore government spending is good. The same story goes for healthcare costs. If the state supplies healthcare for everyone, less people will be sick and away from work, thereby generating more income to the state.

You are linking to articles from quite subjective sources. I can point out at least 10 different articles that are objective and can show that things in Sweden have gotten worse with the right wing-goverment in a lot of fields.
Almost nothing they have done have increased the amount of jobs in Sweden. Almost all scientists agree that lowering taxes does not create jobs. And maybe you can explain how lowering the taxes increases the surplus of the state?
Thanks for calling me an idiot btw, that was fun.

Reliapundit said...

zeb;

u r a fucking moron or a dupe!

if triple down as you worked then the ussr would be the biggest economy on earth and spain and italy and greece and portugal would not be going bust as well.

sheesh.

the "multiplier effect" is total fucking bullshit - like agw and gun control.

all hoaxes that don't accomplish what their leftist cheerleaders claim they should accomplish.

why do you think hayek called socialism the road to serfdom, because it made people freer and richer!?!?!?!?!?!?
NOE LISTEN YOU FUCKING MORON AND I WILL BEGIN DEPROGRAMMING YOU (AS I WAS):

LOWERING TAXES LETS PEOPLE SPEND THEIR OWN MONEY HOW THEY PLEASE AND THIS GROWS THE ECONOMY AND THIS INCREASES GOVERNMENT REVENUES.

CUTTING THE CAPITAL GAINS TAX ALWAYS INCREASES REVENUES; RAISING IT DECREASES REVENUES.

PROSPERITY IS A BY-PRODUCT OF LIBERTY:

WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEFT TO BUY AND SELL WHAT THEY PLEASE THEN THEY BUY AND SELL MORE.

WHY DO YOU THINK THEY CALL THE THINGS WE BUY AND SELL "GOODS"!?!?!

BECAUSE IF YOU BUY IT, THEN YOU MUST THINK THEY ARE GOOD FOR YOU.

AND WHO KNOWS WHAT'S BEST FOR YOU?

YOU DO, NOT SOME BUREAUCRAT IN THE CAPITOL OR HIS CAREER POLITICIANS BOSS WHO IS LINING HIS POCKET AND DOING FAVORS FOR HIS FRIENDS!

PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FREE TO BUY AND SELL AND MAKE AND SELL WHAT THEY PLEASE GET POORER.

DID YOU KNOW THAT CUBA WAS ONCE THE SECOND RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE CARIBBEAN!?

FIDEL MAKE IT THE SECOND POOREST: ONLY HAITI IS POORER.

WHY DID THIS HAPPEN? HOW?
SOCIALISM.

WHAT LIFTED RED CHINA OUT OF POVERTY AND STARVATION? WAS IT SOCIALISM? NOPE.

DENGXIAO PENG INTRODUCED MARKET FREEDOM AND THAT'S WHY CHINA IS DOING BETTER.

EVERYWHERE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES ABOUND:

RHODESIA WAS RICH AND ZIMBABWE IS POOR. EVEN WHEN ONLY HALF OF RHODESIA'S PEOPLE WERE FREE THEY WERE RICHER - AND NOW THEY ARE ALL SLAVES OF THE SOCIALIST STATE AND THE MOST PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE ARE PUNISHED AND THEY ARE A BASKET-CASE.

SOUTH KOREA IS RICH AND NORTH KOREA - WHICH WAS RICHER UP UNTIL THE WAR - IS NOW THE POOREST NATION ON EARTH, JUST ABOUT.

AND SO ON.

THE WELFARE STATE DOESN'T MAKE POOR PEOPLE BETTER OFF IT JUST MAKES THEM DEPENDENT ON THE STATE - A STATE THAT SUCKS THE LIFEBLOOD OUT OF THE PRODUCTIVE PEOPLE AND KILLS PRODUCTIVITY AND PROSPERITY SO ALL BECOME POOR.

WAKE UP OR FUCK OFF.

REAGAN AND THATCHER - WHO I OPPOSED AT THE TIME - SAVED THE WEST BY SAVING THEIR ECONOMIES FROM SOCIALIST RUIN.

WE MST DO IT AGAIN.

WE NEED YOUR HELP.

DEPROGRAM YOURSELF AND JOIN THE RIGHT CAUSE!

IF WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE POVERTY HISTORY THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SOCIALISM HISTORY!

WAKE UP OR FUCK OFF.