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Friday, September 10, 2010

DOES ISLAM TREAT CHRISTIANITY WITH RESPECT? NOPE. MORE PROOF FROM TURKEY

Armenia's religious leaders have decided to boycott an upcoming landmark liturgy at a medieval Armenian cathedral located in southeastern Turkey because of Ankara's refusal to restore a cross on its dome, RFE/RL's Armenian Service reports.
Mass will be celebrated at the 10th-century church of Surp Khach (Holy Cross) for the first time in nearly a century on September 19, three years after the church was reopened following a $1.5 million renovation funded by the Turkish government. The government has allowed Turkey's surviving Armenian Christian community to hold religious services there once a year.

Ankara has promoted the decision as proof of its commitment to tolerance and a gesture of goodwill toward Armenians. Still, it has resisted calls to return the church, on the legendary Akhtamar island in Lake Van, to the Armenian community led by Archbishop Aram Ateshian.

Catholicos Garegin II, the supreme head of the Armenian Church, decided last month to send two high-ranking representatives to the event. His spokesman, Father Vahram Melikian, described the one-day reopening of the shrine as a positive but insufficient step.

In a statement issued on September 4, Garegin's office said the Turkish authorities had broken a pledge to the Mother See of the Armenian Apostolic Church, the country's main church, to allow the Armenian Patriarchate in Istanbul to place a cross on the temple one week before the ceremony. It added that the justification cited for that decision was unfounded, and the church representatives -- an Echmiadzin-based bishop and another high-level cleric -- will not after all attend the Mass.

Garegin's initial decision to send them to the high-profile event had caused controversy in Armenia. Many political groups there regard the event as a Turkish publicity stunt designed to mislead the international community. President Serzh Sarkisian's Republican Party on August 10 spoke out against any Armenian participation in the "imitation show."

Turkey's Culture and Tourism Minister, Ertugrul Gunay, insisted on September 5 that his government initiated the ceremony in good faith.

"The Turkish-Armenian Patriarchate introduced the idea of holding a Mass in the church once a year and we accepted it. This brings us one step closer [to rapprochement with the Armenians] and will be followed by others," he told "Hurriyet Daily News."

"I grew up with Armenians, my best friend is Armenian. We never knew enmity...Whether Greek, Turkish, or Armenian, we are all children of these lands," Gunay said, accusing "nationalists" in both Armenia and Turkey of exploiting the Mass for political purposes.

The minister did not comment on the Turkish government's apparent reluctance to restore the church cross.

Built between 915 and 921 A.D., the Akhtamar church is one of the few surviving examples of the ancient Armenian civilization in what is now eastern Turkey. Hundreds of Armenian churches built there since the early Middle Ages were destroyed, ransacked or turned into mosques during and after the 1915 slaughter of more than 1 million Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.
MORE: Erdogan avoids any word on placement of cross atop Akhtamar St. Cross Church
Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan answered questions live on ATV.

According to Zaman, Erdogan implied on St. Cross Church of Akhtamar, Van.

Speaking about Turkey’s democratic achievements of the recent 8 years, PM Erdogan pointed the recent developments over Sulema Monastery and St. Cross Church.

“We said, you can come once a year and hold religious ceremonies in Sulema Monastery. The same was the case with the Armenian Apostolic Church of St. Cross, which has been reconstructed through our state financial means,” Erdogan said.

However, he said not a single word about the scandalous situation on placement of a cross atop St. Cross Church.

Van governor lately announced they will not manage to put a cross atop the church by September 19 due to technical problems.

This arose discontent among the Armenians and questioned the readiness of a considerable number of Armenians to visit Van.
THIS IS NOT A TURKISH ETHNIC ISSUE; THE PROBLEM IS NOT OTTOMAN VERSUS ARMENIAN.

THIS IS A RELIGIOUS ISSUE.

ERDOGAN IS AN ISLAMIST AND HE IS NOT APOSTATE - WHAT HE'S DOING IS WHAT ISLAM DOES.

ISLAM IS NOT TOLERANT OF NON-MUSLIMS OR OF MUSLIMS DEEMED INFERIOR.

IF THEY WON'T TOLERATE NON-MUSLIMS, THEN THEY SHOULD NOT BE TOLERATED BY NON-MUSLIMS.

BECAUSE MOHAMED WAS INTOLERANT AND A TERRORIST AND MUSLIMS WHO EMULATE HIM CANNOT BE CALLED APOSTATES.

ERGO: IT'S ISLAM, STUPID.

4 comments:

Unknown said...

Hi.
Had this story a while back.What's even more worrysome is that they will allow to have ONE mass celebrated a year in a show of "Religious freedom" towards minorities.I pointed out that they gonna have to do a lot better in order to fool Europe in letting them in!

Reliapundit said...

WILL:

PLEASE POST COMMENTS WITH LINKS TO YOUR POSTS.

Unknown said...

Hi.
Sept 07 morning posting - 16th link i think it was:
"Armenia Church To Boycott Landmark Mass In Turkey.Armenia's religious leaders have decided to boycott an upcoming landmark liturgy at a medieval Armenian cathedral located in southeastern Turkey because of Ankara's refusal to restore a cross on its dome.Turkey's Culture and Tourism Minister, Ertugrul Gunay, insisted on September 5 that his government initiated the ceremony in good faith."The Turkish-Armenian Patriarchate introduced the idea of holding a Mass in the church once a year and we accepted it. This brings us one step closer [to rapprochement with the Armenians] and will be followed by others,".Hmmm Freedom of religion?A Mass once a year and no cross?What freedom??"



http://mfs-theothernews.blogspot.com/2010/09/mfs-other-news_07.html

Unknown said...

Turkey making small but important advances in religious freedom.For anyone who believes in fairy tales!Somehow the distorted mind of the Turks thinks that by allowing to celebrate one mass a year that they allow religious freedom?These people also take away from the St. Gabriel Monastery’s 110 hectares of land originally owned by the monastery for over 1,600 years.So much for religious freedom.Another example of Al-taqiyya and dissimulation.21August - http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=219702