BBC: US will not adopt 'genocide' bill
The Obama administration has said it will seek to block a controversial bill describing as genocide the World War I killing of Armenians by Turks.A congressional panel on Thursday approved the resolution, paving the way for a possible vote by the House.
But US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the administration would "work very hard" to prevent this.
Turkey voiced strong protests after the vote and recalled its ambassador from Washington for consultations.
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said his country had been accused of a crime it did not commit, adding the resolution would harm Turkish-US relations.
President Abdullah Gul said Turkey - a key Nato ally of the US - would "not be responsible for the negative results that this event may lead to".
Change of position
Mrs Clinton - who had urged the House Foreign Affairs Committee not to hold the vote - said on Friday: "We are against this decision. Now we believe that the US Congress will not take any decision on this subject."
... During his campaign for the 2008 election, Mr Obama promised to brand the mass killings genocide.
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA DEFENDING MUSLIM GENOCIDE OF CHRISTIANS!? WHOODATHUNKIT POSSIBLE.
CLEARLY, OBAMA IS SIDING WITH MUSLIM TURKEY AGAINST CHRISTIAN ARMENIA.
OBAMA ALSO SIDES WITH MUSLIMS AGAINST JEWS:
LAST WEEK, OBAMA CLEARLY SET OUT WHAT HIS CHIEF GOAL IN PALESTINIAN-ISRAELI TALKS: ESTABLISHING ANOTHER ARAB STATE, AND NOT ESTABLISHING DEFENSIBLE BORDERS FOR ISRAEL.
TURKEY, THE PALESTINIANS AND OBAMA ARE ENEMIES OF THE WEST.
THEY SHOULD BE TREATED AS SUCH:
- TURKEY SHOULD BE THROWN OUT OF NATO,
- ARABS SHOULD NOT GET A STATE,
- AND OBAMA SHOULD BE IMPEACHED.
8 comments:
Its an irony that many countries take the benefit of US friendship to cover their worst practices.
This is what Pakistan army has been doing as well, they have occupied Balochistan forcibly and been conducting genocide of Baloch people ever since.
Baloch a liberal , peace loving , democratic nation has been the targeted by paksitan army for decades now. The paki army continues to kidnap students , political activists , kill political leaders and use chemical weapons against innocent population.
kahan baloch
http://balochistanandafghanwar.blogspot.com
WATCH THIS!
U R WAY OFF BASE HER YTBA.
WAY WAY OFF.
LEWIS MERELY STATES HE WOULDN'T EQUATE THE ARMENIAN "MASSACRE: TO NAZI GENOCIDE.
SEMANTICS.
WE CAN USE THE WORD GENOCIDE FOR THE HOLOCAUST AND THE SUDAN AND ARMENIANS.
IT HAPPENED.
IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED.
IT SHOULD BE CONNECTED TO GLOBAL JIHAD AND ISLAM'S LONG AND GENOCIDE FILLED HISTORY.
TO ARGUE IT SHOULDN'T IS IDIOTIC.
IT WE ARE RIGHT TO MOURN THE 3000 KILLED ON 9/11 AND RIGHT TOT SEEK TO DESTROY THE IDEOLOGY WHICH FOMENTED THE ATTACK, THEN WE SHOULD ALSO MOURN THE ARMENIANS AND AVENGE THEM, TOO.
GET IT!?!?
IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU ARE FUCKING DENSE.
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IF YOU DON'T THEN YOU ARE FUCKING DENSE."
No, I'm not dense. And you are the one playing at semantics.
Here are some more links...
More facts...
http://armeniangenocide-allegations-and-truth.org/
http://www.armeniangenocidedebate.com/holocaust-and-armenian-genocide-compared
During WWII the Turks saved many Jews, while the Armenians eagerly collaborated with Hitler.
http://news-mews.blogspot.com/2008/07/armenians-people-colaborated-with.html
...though I doubt you will read them, as you seem to have your mind made up.
P.S., there's no need to get be so violently angry. I've also not been impolite, so if you could extend the same courtesy to me, I would appreciate it, if you are capable of it. After all, you (should) know from all my previous posts that I rarely disagree with you, and am often very supportive.
Finally, if you can show me RATIONALLY where I'm wrong, that would be nice. If you just want to rant, then I'm not interested.
Be careful that in your zeal against the enemy, you don't end up shooting yourself in the foot, or stabbing yourself in the back.
Good Night.
YTBA:
U R EFFIN DENSE.
U MISS THE POINT ENTIRELY.
U DON'T ANSWER A SINGLE ONE OF MY POINTS.
WHAT TURKEY DID WAS GENOCIDE.
IT WAS MUSLIM VERSUS CHRISTIAN.
IT WAS WORSE THAN 9/11.
IF 9/11 JUSTIFIES FINALLY FIGHTING BACK, THEN SO DOES THE TURKISH GENOCIDE AGAINST ARMENIANS.
IT WAS AS BAD AS STALIN VERSUS UKRAINIANS.
WE MUST OPPOSE JIHAD AND LEFTISM EVERYWHERE.
YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE TURKISH POSITION IS IDIOTIC AND WRONG.
BACK DOWN AND BACK OFF.
"WHAT TURKEY DID WAS GENOCIDE.
IT WAS MUSLIM VERSUS CHRISTIAN."
OH, come on. You're smarter than that.
It was the Armenians in the West, who sided with Russia, and who themselves executed pogroms against the Turks, who were subject to relocation. (Those in the East, who remained loyal to Turkey, weren't affected, proving it wasn't ethnic, but a matter of dealing with a fifth column siding with an enemy in time of war.)
The objective was to relocate the Armenians to other territories away from the front, where they wouldn't be able to interfere with the war effort. Many were successfully transferred. Unfortunately, many weren't. You have to realize that about as many Turks died for the same reasons that the Armenians did, starvation. It's often hard to get food in wartime.
The Turkish government even went so far as to put on trial those it caught committing atrocities against the Armenians, and those convicted were executed. That is NOT the behavior of people committing genocide.
Today, Turkey is going over to the dark side of Islam, and you are absolutely right that they are becoming dangerous, and for the reasons you state. BUT, be careful not to project the behavior of today's Turks onto the Turks of the late 19th and early 20th century.
I've given you enough information to get you started. If you read it, it should be self-explanatory. If not, then there's probably nothing else I can say to change your mind.
Besides, I have no interest in prolonging this disagreement or turning it into something nasty. I respect the rest of what you do too much.
Regards.
Now, if you want to talk about the Turkey of today....
your defense of turkish genocide is long-winded and amoral and wrong.
BY YOUR LOGIC:
jews who converted to catholicism weren't torched by torquemada; therefore it wasn't genocide when they massacred jews who wouldn't.
bernard lewis called it a massacre - which is just a BS way to avoid using a word associated with jews and the holocaust - GENOCIDE.
but 1 million and 500,000 thousand people were slaughtered by a STATE because they got in the way of the STATE and they got in the way of the state becasue of who they were - CHRSTIANS.
QUESTION: If your new muslim overlords won't kill you if you become a dhimmi and pay them jizya, but they kill those who won't, aren't te millions they kill victims of GENOCIDE?
i think so.
ergo: you are WRONG.
80 million hindus died becaseu of muslim genocide like stalin's versus the ukrainians.
i condemn that and ALL genocide.
u should too.
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