Transcript of Obama video clip:
PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: Tomorrow, you had mentioned earlier, is when we commemorate Pearl Harbor, and so I'm going to be making announcement tomorrow about the head of our Veterans Administration, General Eric Shinseki, who was a commander and has fought in Vietnam, Bosnia, is somebody who has achieved the highest level of military service.THE NYTIMES SPREADS THIS LIE, TOO:
He has agreed that he is willing to be part of this administration because both he and I share a reverence for those who serve. I grew up in Hawaii, as he did. My grandfather is in the Punch Bowl National Cemetery. When I reflect on the sacrifices that have been made by our veterans and, I think about how so many veterans around the country are struggling even more than those who have not served -- higher unemployment rates, higher homeless rates, higher substance abuse rates, medical care that is inadequate -- it breaks my heart, and I think that General Shinseki is exactly the right person who is going to be able to make sure that we honor our troops when they come home.BROKAW: He's the man who lost his job in the Bush Administration because he said we will need more troops in Iraq than Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld thought we would need at that time.
PRESIDENT-ELECT OBAMA: He was right.
BROKAW: Yes, he was right. [I SAW BROKAW AGREE!]
General Critical of Iraq War Is V.A. Chief Pick — CHICAGO — President-elect Barack Obama has chosen retired Gen. Eric K. Shinseki to be secretary of the Veterans Affairs Department, elevating the former Army chief of staff, who was vilified by the Bush administration on the eve of the Iraq war …THIS IS UTTER BULLSHIT, ANOTHER LIE-OF-THE-LEFT... PURE UNADULTERATED PROPAGANDA!
FACT #1: THE NUMBER OF TROOPS:
- WE WON THE IRAQ WAR WITH FAR FEWER TROOPS THAN SHINSEKI WANTED:
- SHINSEKI SAID WE WOULD NEED AT LEAST 650,000 TROOPS:
Shinseki testified to the U.S. Senate Armed Services committee that "something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" would probably be required for postwar Iraq. Then Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz publicly disagreed with his estimate, Rumsfeld insisting that General Shinseki was "wildly off the mark".[1]
- BUT WE DID DO IT WITH FAR LESS THAN THE NUMBER OFF TROOPS SHINSEKI ADVOCATED!
- AT THE PEAK OF THE SURGE WE HAD 180,000 -
- LESS THAN ONE-THIRD THE AMOUNT SHINSEKI WANTED.
SHINSEKI WAS SCHEDULED TO RETIRE BEFORE HE MADE THE COMMENTS.
WIKI:
In the years since, his retirement is commonly reported to have been decided under pressure from opponents of his troop estimates.[citation needed]SEE THAT FOLKS: "CITATION NEEDED"! THEY NEED ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ONE; THEY DON'T HAVE ONE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T ONE; THERE ISN'T ONE BECAUSE IT'S A FREAKIN' LIE.
HUFFINGTON POST: "... the Shinseki myth."
OBAMA IS EITHER AN IGNORANT MORON OR WILLFULLY LYING.It goes like this: Then-Army Chief of General Staff Eric Shinseki was fired from his post (or “retired” as John Kerry put it in a presidential debate last year) because he testified before Congress that an occupying force of “several hundred thousand soldiers” would be required in Iraq.
The latest Democrat to spread this myth was House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California. Appearing on The Daily Show Wednesday night, Pelosi said:
I remind you the president – when General Shinseki said that you need 300,000 troops in order to get the job done and come home safely and soon, he was fired. So this president saying that he listens to the commanders in the field, I don’t know about that.Here’s the problem with that story: It’s not true. Shinseki wasn’t fired. He wasn’t retired early. He retired from the Army after serving out his full term.
SINCE HE OBVIOUSLY AIN'T A DUMMIE, WE CONCLUDE HE'S A LEFT-WING LIAR. (AND BROKAW LIED, TOO - NOT AN EASY FEAT, AS HE WAS FELLATING OBAMA AT THE TIME!)
*******UPDATE: THE LEFT IS REPEATING THIS OLD CANARD ALL OVER THE INTERNET:
NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES AND NO MATTER HOW MANY PEOPLE REPEAT THIS LIE, IT REMAINS A LIE.Philip Rucker / Washington Post:
Obama Picks Shinseki to Lead Veterans Affairs — President-elect Barack Obama today will introduce retired Army Gen. Eric K. Shinseki as his nominee to head the Department of Veterans Affairs, bringing to his Cabinet a career military officer best known for running afoul of the Bush administration …RELATED:
General Critical of Iraq War Is V.A. Chief Pick
CNN GETS THE FACTS RIGHT; HERE.
10 comments:
Poor little Iraq Truther.
You lose.
I guess you'll have to spend the rest of your life trying to rewrite the history of the Iraq War.
Sucks to be you.
talk_is_cheap/davey from california:
u r wrong;
me n CNN and HUFFPO are correct:
shinseki wanted 600,000-700,000 troops and we did the job with 180,000.
shinseki was scheduled to retire before the war and before his testimony.
those who argue he was roght about tropop levels and was fired for it are in fantasyland.
all this was documented in the links in the post.
so for you to comment like you did only shows you are a typical piece of ignorant lazy libertal shit.
NOW FUCKOFF YOU TURD.
Your own source undermines your argument.
Shinseki testified "something in the order of several hundred thousand soldiers" would probably be required for postwar Iraq...[1]
POSTWAR Iraq. You didnt need 600 000 men to defeat the Iraq military... but you needed that many to control the country.
5 years of insufficient troop levels resulted in 4000 US dead, between 100 000 and 1 000 000 Iraqi dead.. and 4 000 000 displaced.
Heck of a job, Bushie.
You call Iraq a success? You think it was a good idea amd well managed? Keep on living in your world because you don't have a chance in the real one. You're dangerous, and you make about as much sense as Rumsfeld. By the way, where is Rumsfeld these days? Is he a big hero of yours? You're also probably a big supporter of the barons on Wall Street that gave us our present situation. I have never seen someone be more wrong. It must have something to do with your mental health
craig;
the current financial meltdown was caused by fannie mae and freddie mac.
bush and mccain wanted them reined in - from 2003, and kept demnding it until 2007 - when it was too effin late.
the dems blocked all fannie mae reforms.
the fannie mae problems opriginated with carter and clinton policies which FORCED banks to lend mopney to people with bad credit.
wake up or fuck off.
WUOFU.
roy -
runsmfeld hasn't disappeared, he wroote a nytimes oped a few weeks ago.
rummy and wolfie were closer to the real numbers than shinseki.
iraq - by any historical measure - WAS a great success:
we fought and won THREE WARS;
a war against saddam;
a civil war - started by al qaeda when they bloew up the golden dome in samara;
and a terrorist insurgency.
now iraqis have a consitutional republic.
they love it.
youy should be proud.
our troops did magnificently.
God Bless them all and their families.
Why does the Slimes say Shinseki was "vilified"? Is this how they refer to Rumsfeld disagreeing with Shinseki?
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