THE BIBLE HAS DESCRIPTIVE VIOLENCE. THE KORAN IS PRESCRIPTIVE.
ROBERT SPENCER:
RTWT - HE DISMANTLES THE POPULAR BLOGGER VAN DER GALIEN, AND ALL OTHERS WHO MINIMIZE THE CENTRALITY OF PRESCRIPTIVE XENOPHOBIC VIOLENCE IN THE KORAN.
For while the Bible contains descriptions of violent acts committed in the name of God, nowhere does it teach believers to imitate that violence.
RTWT - HE DISMANTLES THE POPULAR BLOGGER VAN DER GALIEN, AND ALL OTHERS WHO MINIMIZE THE CENTRALITY OF PRESCRIPTIVE XENOPHOBIC VIOLENCE IN THE KORAN.- IT IS THIS PRESCRIPTIVENESS WHICH LEADS MIDDLE-CLASS MUSLIMS BORN AND RAISED IN THE UK, FOR EXAMPLE, TO BECOME SUICIDE BOMBERS.
EVEN IRSHAD MANJI - AN ENORMOUSLY POPULAR MUSLIM REFORMER - ADMITS THAT VIOLENCE AND MISOGYNY ARE CENTRAL TO THE KORAN.
- SHE ARGUES THAT TO COUNTER RADICAL ISLAM, A NEW ISLAM MUST EVOLVE WHICH USES THE KORAN FIGURATIVELY.
- THIS IMPLICITLY ADMITS THAT THE RADICALS ARE TAKING THE WORDS IN THE KORAN LITERALLY. THEREFORE; IRSHAD MANJI IS THE APOSTATE, NOT OSAMA BIN LADEN. THEREFORE, THE PROBLEM IS IN THE KORAN.
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The Old testament prescribes violence, it is worse than the Koran - which was the major reasons that some Jews, such notably Paul the apostle, found it necessary to get in a new prophet to make the old testament non binding and issue a new peaceable and tolerant testament.
For example:
Deuteronomy 13:6
If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die;
Deuteronomy 17:2
If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant,
And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded;
And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and inquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel:
Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.
Because of this, and many similarly inconvenient and abhorrent scriptures, around 200AD the Jews that had not become Christians started to manufacture the Talmud, - drilling loopholes in these unwanted scriptures - burying the original Torah under a great huge pile of weaseling and nitpicking that would drive a lawyer cross eyed and give him a headache.
Muslims have frequently been tempted to do the same, and have frequently made a start on doing the same
The proposal to construct a great big pile of Talmudic rationalizations and excuses and bury the bloodier bits of the Koran in that pile is called, in Islamic circles, "reopening of the gates of ijtihad"
Unfortunately however, the gates of ijtihad are firmly closed, and reopening them will get you jailed in Muslim lands, and murdered in Western lands.
No Muslim is a moderate unless he has a fresh prophet up his sleeve, or else proposes to reopen the gates of ijtihad, and by this standard, in all the world there are very few moderate muslims - in part because even in England, such a moderate will likely be killed and the police will find it dangerous and inconvenient to notice his death.
JIMMY BOY;
IS THAT THE BEST ANTI-SEMITE SHIT YOU CAN COME UP WITH!?
SHEESH.
THAT STUFF APPLIES TO JEWS.
THERE ARE NO PRESCRIPTIONS FOR GENOCIDE OF GENTILES IN THE TORAH.
AND GOD GAVE THE JEWS THE TORAH.
NOT ANGEL'S.
HUMAN JEWS.
IT IS OURS.
THE TALMUD AND OTHER COMMENTARIES ARE VALID LAW.
JESUS WAS A GOOD JEWS.
EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS WITHIN PHARISAIC JUDAISM.
YES: HE WAS A PHARISEE.
WEASELING AND NITPICKING ARE DISGUSTINGLY INACCURATE AND BLATANTLY ANTI-SEMITIC TERMS.
FUCK YOU.
JESUS WAS BORN A GOOD JEWS AND DIED A GOOD JEW.
YOU ARE A BAD PERSON.
Sure there are instances of commanded genocide in the Bible. Most obviously, against Amalek and the seven nations of the land of Canaan. Deuteronomy 25:17-19, and Deuteronomy 20:16-17, among other places. Some Jews (Kahanists, etc.) apply those passages to modern-day people (mostly the Palestinian Arabs), and use it as a justification for violence.
The Bible is a reflection of the culture that produced it, just like the Koran is. Such acts of mass violence were pretty typical in ancient times.
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