This much-linked-to article by Peter Brown of Quinnipiac posted at RCP gets is ALL WRONG. He writes:... both men [McCain and Lieberman] have supported their party leaders more often than not, neither toes the party line. This has led both to alienate the more ideologically based voters within their respective parties. McCain, for instance, was the force behind the campaign finance reform bill that conservatives hate. He also split with the president over the treatment of prisoners in U.S. military custody and forced Bush to compromise on recent legislation on the subject.
Lieberman has not only backed Bush on the war, but is much more socially conservative than many in his party and does not always see eye-to-eye with Democratic interest groups and activists.
I think the fact that both candidates appeal to so-called centrists/independents who pick-and-choose from among each party's platform is trivial. WHY!? Well, Lieberman's margin over Lamont doesn't portend a McCain victory, but a RUDY VICTORY: It shows that a liberal hawk is a very appealing candidate for parts of the GOP and the DNC and the "moderate" independents.
McCain is not a liberal hawk - he is pro-Life and pro-tax cuts. Sure, he is anti-gun and for campaign finance reform (which hinders free speech), but he is really rather conservative - too conservative for many MANY Lieberman-type voters.
Rudy, though, is truly a liberal hawk: he is anti-gun; pro-gay marriage; pro-abortion; and virtually pro-illegal immigation. Lieberman shows that this Rudy-esque combination is truly very appealing.
I seriously doubt that the Democrat Party can nominate a hawk - liberal or centrist. They will nominate someone more like Lamont than like Lieberman, and THAT is the sad-but-true bottom-line of this story.
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McCain is not a liberal hawk - he is pro-Life and pro-tax cuts. Sure, he is anti-gun and for campaign finance reform (which hinders free speech), but he is really rather conservative - too conservative for many MANY Lieberman-type voters.
Rudy, though, is truly a liberal hawk: he is anti-gun; pro-gay marriage; pro-abortion; and virtually pro-illegal immigation. Lieberman shows that this Rudy-esque combination is truly very appealing.
I seriously doubt that the Democrat Party can nominate a hawk - liberal or centrist. They will nominate someone more like Lamont than like Lieberman, and THAT is the sad-but-true bottom-line of this story.
UPDATE: Welcome ROGER L. SIMON readers. Roger has a feeling on this one, too.
And welcome MEMORANDUM readers, too. And a big welcome to POWER LINE readers! Please chck out the whole blog!
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u r right here: [mccain] not nearly as hawkish as Giuliani, and is not willing to do whatever is called for in this war. which is why i'd support rudy over mccain. tho' i think rudy is a liberal who is more like lieberman on the social issues than mccain is.
We are not at a point in history where it is acceptable to have an anti-gun President. However, if that is the worst thing about him, I guess I'll take it.
dunno GM: rudy wuz a mcgovern dem once...
snd he shacked up with gay buddies when his honover marriage broke up.
he IS a social liberal.
and a true hawk. as i feel the gwot triumps all issues i would vote for him over any dem.
and i am a regstrd dem. only voted for rudy once. the reelection.
mccain is better than most dems too.
but rudy is a better hawk.
mitt is my favorite now. used to be allen till he proved he is NOT a natural.
mitt is a natural. he would trounce hillary i think and everyone else. buhjt his hawk creds are not the best.
mitt and rice. now that rather nice.
better: mitt and rumsfeld! seriouisly: mitt & rudy/mccain/coleman/kyl/ridge.
romney ridge. has a nice ring to it.
PA is a KEY state.
romney and... who else?
I like Mitt Romney, but I'm afraid Christians would not vote for him because he is a Mormon.
I'm a registered Dem, but I'm all over the map. I'm about as pro GWOT as one can be. I'm pro-gun. I'm somewhat squishy on abortion and I'm pro-gay. I don't give a crap that Giuliani shacked up with his gay buds. I don't care if they went Brokeback on him. I just don't care. That's his business.
To echo Roger, I hope you're right.
I don't think the gun issue is going to matter that much even to hard-core Right-to-Keep-and-Bear-Arms voters when it comes to a Giuliani Presidential candidacy. Rudy is smart enough to downplay the issue and say it should be primarily left up to the states rather than the federal government.
But more importantly, the threat of gun-control at the national level is receding rapidly. More and more Democrats are looking at it the way Republicans have been conditioned to look at Social Security: It's the third rail of American politics. Gun control lost Congress for the Democrats in 1994, and they don't want to go through that again. And gun control interest groups are losing their influence with Democrats; it is no longer a litmus-test issue the way abortion is.
So a Giuliani Presidency would probably have no significant impact on the gun control struggle. Staunch Second Amendment supporters are not going to oppose Giuliani over this single issue, because it has lost its urgency.
Some economists think that tax rates above 20% reduce economic activity significantly and lead to tax avoidance rather than increased tax revenues.
So far the Bush tax cuts have produced about $180 bn more in revenue than the government expected. Just this year.
Tax hikes seem like sock it to the rich. Not true. Capital is needed to create jobs. Tax hikes on the rich sock it to the poor.
RUGHT ON M. SIMOIN: "soak the rich" is code for "pull the wool over the eyes" of the poor.
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