Santorum and Hoekstra - and others - say that the existence of these 500 shells proves that there were WMD stockpiles in Iraq, and that it matters not when the WMD's were made.
Others say, (paraphrasing), "NO; they were so degraded they were harmless." Some conservatives are just underwhelmed.
HARMLESS?! Maybe yes; maybe no. As TKS/NRO said: OKAY, THEN YOU OPEN THEM!" Heh.
But this is the BOTTOM-LINE:
UNSCR #1441 DEMANDED that Saddam make a full and final declaration of all of his WMD's.
The INSPECTORS were meant to be auditors (not detectives) who would examine that FULL & FINAL declaration and verify it.
The fact that MANY WMD ITEMS - these 500 WMD artillery shells, and parts for NUCLEAR CENTRIFUGES, for example - were found in Iraq, and WERE NOT DECLARED BY SADDAM, PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, BEYOND ANY DOUBT AT ALL, THAT SADDAM'S DECLARATION WAS NOT "FULL & FINAL", BUT PARTIAL, OBFUSCATORY, AND A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE HEART & SOUL OF UNSCR #1441.
UNSCR #1441 was EXPLICITLY, OVERTLY, SIMPLY, UNALTERABLY, AND OBVIOUSLY MEANT AS SADDAM'S LAST CHANCE.
The UNSC could not pass mo' tougher sanctions, or do anything else short of what the USA and the COALITION OF THE WILLING ultimately did do: attack Saddam, and dethrone this lying, genocidal, terrorist-supporting tyrant.
If those on the so-called "anti-war" side think that a more sternly worded warning than UNSC #1441 would have done ANYTHING, then they are even stupider than I have ever imagined. Or could imagine.
Saddam's decision to LIE AND NOT COMPLY with UNSCR #1441 was the reason we HAD TO GO TO WAR. The 500 WMD artillery shells found in Iraq since 2003 proves this. We should all thank Santorum and Hoekstra for putting more of the proof on the table. For all to see.
Only dingbats of denial - blinded by BDS, or by delusions of "peace through isolationism, appeasement and retreat" - refuse to see what is as plain as day - AND UTTERLY UNDENIABLE: THE WAR WAS RIGHT, LEGAL, JUST, AND A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO OUR ENEMIES: "Don't tread on me, the law, or the truth."
[ASIDE: STRATEGYPAGE posits an explanation for the DOD's three year old policy for obfuscating the existence of these shells.]
UPDATE: The shells are still deadly - according to the BBC.
Others say, (paraphrasing), "NO; they were so degraded they were harmless." Some conservatives are just underwhelmed.
HARMLESS?! Maybe yes; maybe no. As TKS/NRO said: OKAY, THEN YOU OPEN THEM!" Heh.
But this is the BOTTOM-LINE:
UNSCR #1441 DEMANDED that Saddam make a full and final declaration of all of his WMD's.
The INSPECTORS were meant to be auditors (not detectives) who would examine that FULL & FINAL declaration and verify it.
The fact that MANY WMD ITEMS - these 500 WMD artillery shells, and parts for NUCLEAR CENTRIFUGES, for example - were found in Iraq, and WERE NOT DECLARED BY SADDAM, PROVES BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT, BEYOND ANY DOUBT AT ALL, THAT SADDAM'S DECLARATION WAS NOT "FULL & FINAL", BUT PARTIAL, OBFUSCATORY, AND A DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE HEART & SOUL OF UNSCR #1441.
UNSCR #1441 was EXPLICITLY, OVERTLY, SIMPLY, UNALTERABLY, AND OBVIOUSLY MEANT AS SADDAM'S LAST CHANCE.
The UNSC could not pass mo' tougher sanctions, or do anything else short of what the USA and the COALITION OF THE WILLING ultimately did do: attack Saddam, and dethrone this lying, genocidal, terrorist-supporting tyrant.
If those on the so-called "anti-war" side think that a more sternly worded warning than UNSC #1441 would have done ANYTHING, then they are even stupider than I have ever imagined. Or could imagine.
Saddam's decision to LIE AND NOT COMPLY with UNSCR #1441 was the reason we HAD TO GO TO WAR. The 500 WMD artillery shells found in Iraq since 2003 proves this. We should all thank Santorum and Hoekstra for putting more of the proof on the table. For all to see.
Only dingbats of denial - blinded by BDS, or by delusions of "peace through isolationism, appeasement and retreat" - refuse to see what is as plain as day - AND UTTERLY UNDENIABLE: THE WAR WAS RIGHT, LEGAL, JUST, AND A POWERFUL MESSAGE TO OUR ENEMIES: "Don't tread on me, the law, or the truth."
[ASIDE: STRATEGYPAGE posits an explanation for the DOD's three year old policy for obfuscating the existence of these shells.]
UPDATE: The shells are still deadly - according to the BBC.
12 comments:
Well,...leave enough methyl-ethyl-bad-s**t out in the 110-degree sand for about 10 years and see how fresh it is.
As TKS says "OKAY, THEN YOU OPEN THEM!" Heh."
I agree. Let's see how "harmless" they are!
we could either drop some on the kerry-heinz compound, the kennedy compound, or on the democratic caucus.
that way, even if they're deadly, there will be no real losses. heh.
or, i suggest david kay opens them on and breathes in their contents on live TV.
Don't you guys feel as frustrated
as poor Andy Mc Carthy in Bush & Co's "failure" to further embarrass
themselves by using any of this
non-evidence which only strengthens the anti-war case, as evidently even the dastardly but
skilled Karl Rove obviously understands?
Those closest to the WMD subject have already blasted you guys out of the water..the terrible triumverate of Kay,Ritter & Blix.
Once again, Blix has for the
umphundredth time noted in the past month that Saddam had NOT cut off access to further inspections, but that BUSH did, and that Saddam
was guilty of no more than
sloppy record-keeping, whereas Bush was indeed guilty of deciciding to go to war the pretending the inspections mattered.
Take it up with HANS who speaks,after all for the WORLD on the subject.
Kay also repeated his dismissal of Santorum and crew.
Opponents of Ritter have been reduced to labelling him with
ugly epithets after his exoneration...such is their ineffectuality against his
widely read columns and lecture tours where he demonstrates that
the CIA was illegally using the
inspections to SPY on the Iraqi
regime, and knew well the WMDs
had been discarded in the EARLY
1990s,but allowed integrity
as in the case of Tenet to be
sacrificed on the altar of careerism.
THE UN decides what constitutes
compliance with 1441 and the means of dealing with issues at contest related to it--not Bush by fiat.
But AB is not really concerned with UN resolutions, as never in his blogging history has he complained about US non-enforcement of dozens of UN resolutions ordering Israel off the West Bank. The Moslem world notices the inconsistency however
and hates the US all the more for it, one of the reasons the US is bogged down in Iraq while AB is blogged down also in the quagmire.
hey lefty asshole:
you write:
"Saddam was guilty of no more than
sloppy record-keeping"
tell that to the kurds and shias who make up 80% or iraq.
and were the victims of saddam's genocide.
you are an amoral piece of shit for poo-pooing saddam
thanks for doing it for all to see and exposing the fact - once again - that the left/anti-war crowd feels saddam was benign.
as you leftists did stalin, mao, fidel and che, pol pot, and so on.
BUTHCERS: EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM.
BUTCHERS AND TYRANTS.
and you lefties sucked their dicks.
in public.
like you did just again in your comments.
thanks for exposing the left for what it is.
once again.
this asshole lefite also exposes the BLATANT ANTI-SEMITISM of tyhe left, writing:
"But AB is not really concerned with UN resolutions, as never in his blogging history has he complained about US non-enforcement of dozens of UN resolutions ordering Israel off the West Bank."
there is not one single solitary UNSCR which orders this. not one.
res 242 demands negotiations towards final borders which guarantee istrael's security.
google and read it yourself you anti-Semitic asshole.
AND, you defend the morality of the UN! what an ass. the UN is a cesspool of corruption and immorality.
its peacekeepers and incomeptent crowd of sexual predators.
google it.
the truth is out there.
but you WON'T find iyt on lefty website.
you fuckin piece of anti-semitic shit.
hey - ritter was sex-offender too - caught in a sting - he was trying to have sex with a 12 year old gilor he thought he'd snagged online.
all scum: blix/ritter/kofi/saddam.
wrong on all essentials-
One-my Hussein reference,as that of Blix, went merely to the weapons
controversy we were discussing.
Two-if you are going to use the UN
as a vehicle, as Bush did, and in supporting Bush you also..you cannot then reverse course and condemn the UN while continuing to
use its "decisions" as excuse for a war it ultimately rejected.
Of course you could become a
dreaded "isolationist" and demand
the US get out of the UN.
Three-the Ritter charge involved
a 16 year old and was thrown out of court.If you neocons gather all your resources and bellow about it at high pitch, you might move Ritter's public image one-one thousandth of the way toward that of Roman Polanski;in other words, give it up-you've lost and he's cleared and respected well beyond
the Left, quoted in AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE for example, a magazine you would do well to research.
http://amconmag.com/2006/2006_06_19/article1.html
and here is a great place to start,quite apropos to the subject!
ritter copped aplea deal.
blix TESTIFIED before the unsc that sadgan was in violation of unscr #1441.
fats are stubborn things.
FACTS:
In 2001, Ritter was arrested near Albany, NY. News reports say Ritter had brushes with police on two occasions, both involving allegations of intent to meet underage girls after chatting on the Internet.[13]
Prosecutors initially agreed to charge Ritter with a misdemeanor with a view to dropping the charges if no further allegations against him arose in the following six months, and asked for court records to be sealed. Ritter himself says all charges were dismissed. However, it was claimed by WTEN-TV citing unnamed sources, that Ritter underwent court-ordered sex offender counseling from an Albany psychologist.[14]
Following the dismissal of charges in the state jurisdiction, federal law enforcement officials looked into the possibility that Ritter violated federal law, but no charges were filed. [15]
According to a CNN report, the dismissal of the charges was the result of a deal between Ritter and Albany County Assistant District Attorney Cynthia Preiser and without the knowledge of Albany County District Attorney Paul Cline. Cline fired Preiser for failing to "inform him of the existence of a sensitive case," referring to Ritter's case. [16]
at wikipedia with links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ritter
therefore you are on record as supporting ritter - an admitted sex offender and saddam a proven genocidal murderer.
case closed - on you. you fucking scumwad moron regurgitator of leftist bullshit.
sparty: your comment made no sense. even FICTITIOUS QUOTE.
TRAITORS CONVICTED OF TREASON SHOULD BE EXCUTED.
KERRY AND MURTHA AND PINCH/KELLER SHOULD BE TRIED AND CONVICTED AND EXECUTED.
THAT'S ONE WAY DEMOCRACIES DEFEND THEMSELVES FROM TRAITORS.
HISS WAS GUILTY.
THE ROSENBERGS GUILTY.
TOKYO ROSE - GUILTY.
WHAT KERRY SAID IN 1971 AND WHAT MURTHA SAID A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND WHAT THE NYTIMES HAS DONE OVER AND OVER AGAIN WAS TREASONOUS.
CHILD RAPISTS AND MURDERERS AND TRAITORS SHOULD ALL BE TRIED CONVICTED AND EXECTUED.
THAT IS JUSTICE.
SADDAM SHOULD BE - AND WILL BE EXECUTED, TOO.
NO MATTER WHAT LEFTISTS LIKE YOU AND KELLER AND RAMSES CLARKE AND CINDY SHEEHAN SAY.
DOESN'T IT BOTHER YOU THAT YOU AND BINLADEN SHARE THE SDAME GOAL: THE USA OUT OF IRAQ NOW?!
YOU ARE A DUPE.
1 - i have read more books than you've seen telephone poles. i have an BA in anthro and phil w/minor in hist and a MA, too.
i am 50 friggin yeasr old and have seen more than you could imagine.
i havebeen a dem since 1974, and was raised by former communists.
i know the elftist crap youy spew out backwards and forwards.
it bores me.
now, the suggestion "re: sarin artillery shells" was this: if the ant-Bushies're so sure hat the shells are totally degraded, then why don't they open them and breathe them!?
would you!?
no. no sane person would.
BTW: i am so oso so SO so SO tired of your BS, sparty I will - from now on - delete all your comments.
your knee-jerk leftism is a bore.
if you want to dialogue/critique me, then you're just gonna have to get your own blog and link to mine.
buhBYEE.
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