"ALL CAPS IN DEFENSE OF LIBERTY IS NO VICE."

Wednesday, May 31, 2006

MORE PROOF THAT HAWKS WERE RIGHT ABOUT VIETNAM: USA AND VIETNAM SIGN TRADE PACT

WASH POST/AP:
The United States and Vietnam were set to sign a trade pact Wednesday that removes one of the last major hurdles in Hanoi's bid to join the World Trade Organization.

The deal would knock down further trade barriers between the two countries, who saw bilateral trade rise 22 percent to $7.8 billion last year, by ending U.S. quotas on Vietnamese textiles and garments and giving American companies greater access to a growing Southeast Asian market. It also paves the way for Vietnam to reach its goal of becoming a member of the global trading body before Hanoi hosts the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in November, which President Bush is scheduled to attend.

"This is one of the last steps in the process of Vietnam joining WTO," said Vu Tien Loc, chairman of the Vietnam Chamber of Commerce and Industry, who added that Hanoi's admission to the international group would provide "a clearer roadmap in reforming the business environment and opening up the economy."
The fact that the Vietnamese communists/Marxists/socialists - (call them what you want) - now SEEK to get the USA and other captialist/industrialized/free-market economies involved in the Vietnamese economy PROVES that Leftism is bankrupt and that the North Vietnamese resisitance to South Vietnam's captialism and enagement with the USA was DEAD WRONG: to the tune of MILLIONS OF VIETNAMESE NEEDLESSLY KILLED.

Ho Chi Minh and his socialist minions might have done this very thing in 1965 and thereby avoided the entire USA-North Vietnamese conflict. The USA could have been investing in Vietnam since 1965, and the Vietnamese people could have enjoyed the last 40 years under liberty and capitalism, instead of tyranny and poverty.

The "commies" who still run Vitenam now accept that they must open up their economy and have free markets and industrialization and global trade if the Vietnamese people are to enjoy lives of plenty and health. (ASIDE: Though jerks like Jose Bove still deny that capitalism, industrialization, and global trade are the roads to liberty and prosperity! YUP: Leftists within non-Leftist nations are living in total denial!)

Had the North Vietnamese chosen this route in 1965, then the 65 million Vietnamese people would be as rich and as free as South Koreans today, and the millions who were sent to die to defend Marxism (and defeat capitalism) would be alive.

Ho Chi Minh was wrong, and millions died as a result - NEEDLESSLY. The so-called "peace movement"/"anti-war" movement was just as wrong. The North Vietnamese socialists and the so-called "peace movement" has ALL the blood on THEIR hands.

The hawks were right. As usual. Vietnam was a noble cause. We were winning the battle. We had completely Vietnamized the war by 3/29/73' THERE WERE NO USA TROOPS IN SOUTH VIETNAM AFTER THAT DATE. The South Vietnamese government did not fall until 1975 - when the Democrat Doves pulled the plug on our allies and stopped sending them financial aid.

If Dean, Pelosi and Reid and the Democrat Doves get the chance, they will do the same thing again. The Democrat Doves will abandon Iraq, and Afghanistan (which is heating up again). The Doves will abandon Lebanon, and appease Assad and Iran. That's why the doves cannot be trusted with our national security.

ADDENDUM: We lost nearly as many men in Korea in three years as we did in Vietnam in TEN YEARS. We NEVER stabbed out South Korean allies in the back - as we did our South Vietnamese allies. As a result, NOT ONLY have the 65 million Vietnamese people lived under tyranny and poverty, but 500,000 were put into "re-education" camps, 2 million fled as Boat People, and Pol Pot took power next door and murdered THREE MILLION!

By ANY and ALL logical measures, the Vietnamese War was a noble cause which might have at least allowed half of the Vietnamese people enjoy what ALL HUMANS EVERYWHERE DESERVE: liberty. The surrender by the Leftie Doves was but a dark and sorry chapter.

You don't have to take my word for it, just read the news article I linked to; it PROVES that the Vietnamese have admitted that socialism was a failure, which implies that their war against the South of Vietnam, capitalism and the USA was a HUGE mistake. REPEAT: the deals they are making now are deals which they could have had 40 years ago if the North hadn't been run by Marxists and Soviet clients.

Instead, over the last 40 years, socialism has done to Vietnam what it is doing to Zimbabwe - and what it has done EVERYWHERE else it has ever taken power - limit libery and spread poverty. Which is no surprise; after all, socialism is the road to serfdom.

Well, now the Vietnamese are going back... back to a fork in that road, and turning down the road not taken, taking the road to liberty and trade and industrialization and prosperity. It's a road they could've taken 40 years ago. Pity.

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ask the relatives and friends of the 50,000 or more US dead if they agree with Unreliable
who didn't risk a bruise in Vietnam.

Anonymous said...

Since you asked...yeah. It was worth it. What it wasn't worth was chicken traitors like John Kerry and the rest of the scaredycrats who stabbed our allies in the back just so they could participate in the forced exodus of 1.8 million people as well as the wholesale slaughter of those who didn't flee.

It isn't about risking bruises. It is about doing the right thing. Kerrycrats were wrong in '75. Cartercrats were wrong in '79. Clintoncrats were wrong in Somalia...

it is always wrong to leave a fight.

Always.

Anonymous said...

YOU HAVE THE EXTREME MINORITY POSITION ON THE WORTH OF THE VIETNAM WAR,EVEN WHEN REPUBLICAN VOTERS ARE POLLED.BUT THEN YOU
OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW A NO-WIN WAR WHEN YOU SEE ONE,WITNESS IRAQ.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0605/30/ldt.01.html
WHICH Gen. Barry McCafferty as noted here YESTERDAY said is 'ABJECT MISERY'.

Anonymous said...

http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/HF01Ak01.html

also Syria/Assad restin' easy according to the authoritative Asian Times

Reliapundit said...

bwahahahah! you are a dupe!

the asia tmes piece is by a syrian defeatist.

things have changed. the un and eu are WITH the uSA and against Assad.

why do you defend him, and why do you wish he survives?

is it simply BDS?

i think so.

pity.

also: please post comments to things that are relevent to my post. THIS IS A WARNING. next time i will delete off topic posts. and i may delete this in a few hours.


assad is toast. and that is good. becasue tyrnany is bad. for everyone, even jerks like you.

Reliapundit said...

we shall see what happens after the brammertz report.

Anonymous said...

I suppose if you ask the relatives of 55,000 dead Americans from Vietnam, you will get a variety of responses.

Now, go ask the relatives of the millions of dead and refugees who fled Southeast Asia after we fled.

Aren't you lefties the least be compassionate?

John Sorg
Indianapolis

Anonymous said...

Anybody know how many Viets voted for John Kerry? I'd like to know how many from Little Saigon vote for their "savior", you know, the one whose action brought about the end of their country as they know it.

Just a note for the Leftie freaks, if your man committed "war crime", not many will vote for him. "War criminal president" ain't that good of a title. Wonder who thought up that tactic, and y'all claimed to be smarter than the average folks.

Po' delusional fools.

Deke