WOAI/DRUDGE:
1 - "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway."
FALSE. This is what they're trained for and what we pay them to do. And they're PROUD to do it. AND WE'RE PROUD OF THEM!
2 - "This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
FALSE. The US military NEVER had a major defeat in Vietnam; in fact we WON the Tet Offensive! What is more, all US combat troops were home by 3/29/73, and South Vietnam didn't fall until 1975 - and it only fell because anti-war Lefties like Dean (and me, THEN TOO -- to my eternal shame!) got the Democrats in Congress to ABANDON the South Vietnamese (stop military advising and financial support) WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE Leftie doves like Dean WANT TO DO TO THE IRAQIS NOW!
3 - "... 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
FALSE. This poll is ALL PHONY. Sure, most Iraqis want us to leave, BUT MOST WANT THIS TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEEN MADE SECURE AND SAFE and are able to defend themselves! We won them their country. NOW, we are securing it TOGETHER. Soon, they will defend it themselves.
4 - "What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war."
FALSE. BUSH DID NOT LIE. The Senate had access to exactly what Bush saw, and this was essentially the same intel that Clinton saw - and which led Clinton to launch a misslie attack against Saddam's WMD capability. SURE: there were different and conflicting interpretations of that intel; there always is! Bush took the worst case scenarios WHICH WAS PRUDENT; Bush said he would NOT give Saddam - a vicious tyrant who had used WMD on his own people and attacked his neighbors - the benefit of the doubt. Apparently, Dean and the Lefties would give genocidal tyrants like Saddam the benefit of the doubt. That's why they cannot be trusted with our national security. That's why the electorate MUSTN'T EVER TRUST THE DEMOCRATS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
Dean either knows the truth and lies to hurt Bush - and doesn't care if it also hurts the USA and our troops - and is therefore a partisan hack and a traitor, or he is a stupid jerk whose brain is too addled from his ski-bumb years (when he DODGED THE DRAFT AND SKIPPED OUT ON THE VIETNAM WAR, and probably began DECADES OF SMOKING MARIJUANA - I speculate that this is the case because he sounds EXACTLY like so many potheads I used to know!).
In any case, the more he opens his mouth the better. He's the best thing to happen to the GOP in YEARS! He's as wrong as McGovern and one of the crappiest communicators to come along in decades.
The biggest political thing he ever did on his own was LOSE IOWA - and he lost it BIGTIME - after holding a huge lead in the polls and in fundraising! Which proves that he is a loser and an ass. And therefore, Howie is the perfect leader for the Dems - whose mascot is an ass, and who always LOSE! Thank God!
FULL ROUND UP OF THE BLOGOSPHERE HERE.
1 - "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway."
FALSE. This is what they're trained for and what we pay them to do. And they're PROUD to do it. AND WE'RE PROUD OF THEM!
2 - "This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
FALSE. The US military NEVER had a major defeat in Vietnam; in fact we WON the Tet Offensive! What is more, all US combat troops were home by 3/29/73, and South Vietnam didn't fall until 1975 - and it only fell because anti-war Lefties like Dean (and me, THEN TOO -- to my eternal shame!) got the Democrats in Congress to ABANDON the South Vietnamese (stop military advising and financial support) WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE Leftie doves like Dean WANT TO DO TO THE IRAQIS NOW!
3 - "... 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
FALSE. This poll is ALL PHONY. Sure, most Iraqis want us to leave, BUT MOST WANT THIS TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEEN MADE SECURE AND SAFE and are able to defend themselves! We won them their country. NOW, we are securing it TOGETHER. Soon, they will defend it themselves.
4 - "What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war."
FALSE. BUSH DID NOT LIE. The Senate had access to exactly what Bush saw, and this was essentially the same intel that Clinton saw - and which led Clinton to launch a misslie attack against Saddam's WMD capability. SURE: there were different and conflicting interpretations of that intel; there always is! Bush took the worst case scenarios WHICH WAS PRUDENT; Bush said he would NOT give Saddam - a vicious tyrant who had used WMD on his own people and attacked his neighbors - the benefit of the doubt. Apparently, Dean and the Lefties would give genocidal tyrants like Saddam the benefit of the doubt. That's why they cannot be trusted with our national security. That's why the electorate MUSTN'T EVER TRUST THE DEMOCRATS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
Dean either knows the truth and lies to hurt Bush - and doesn't care if it also hurts the USA and our troops - and is therefore a partisan hack and a traitor, or he is a stupid jerk whose brain is too addled from his ski-bumb years (when he DODGED THE DRAFT AND SKIPPED OUT ON THE VIETNAM WAR, and probably began DECADES OF SMOKING MARIJUANA - I speculate that this is the case because he sounds EXACTLY like so many potheads I used to know!).
In any case, the more he opens his mouth the better. He's the best thing to happen to the GOP in YEARS! He's as wrong as McGovern and one of the crappiest communicators to come along in decades.
The biggest political thing he ever did on his own was LOSE IOWA - and he lost it BIGTIME - after holding a huge lead in the polls and in fundraising! Which proves that he is a loser and an ass. And therefore, Howie is the perfect leader for the Dems - whose mascot is an ass, and who always LOSE! Thank God!
FULL ROUND UP OF THE BLOGOSPHERE HERE.
19 comments:
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
yo elvis -
He just told you how he really felt. And he is spot on.
Howard Dean is a traitorous, deranged moonbat who is almost single-handedly sinking the Democrat party into a thickening sea of misinformation, contradictory quotes and statements, and eye-popping, vein-busting screeds that mean nothing to the average American.
Hope he keeps it up!
Oh dear, you are going to be SO upset when the US finally cuts and runs from Iraq. Is that defeatest enough for you? See, some of us live in a different place and have a different veiw. And we dont' pop a vein about it.
(Ivan, honey, I think you took a wrong turn somewhere around Democrat Underground. That or you're bored.)
Anyway.
Terrific post. I borrowed some of your wisdom for my blog...wanted to track back but I guess you don't have that? Or maybe I'm (once again) outsmarted by trackbacks. :)
Anyway, thank you for saying what needs to be said in such a fantastic way. Well done.
DP
Gee, Mr. Astute. That is one twisted little world you inhabit.
thanks "mr. rogers" for illustrating ONCE AGAIN how the Left argues: they ignore the facts and make personal attacks.
dean is wring on the facst - abotu iraq and vietnam. you ignore that.
you inhabit a world of lies fashioned inthe 1970's.
i pity you.
I have to say, your rhettoric about Treason is as annoying as it is stupid
LOOK UP THE WORD TREASON!!!!!!!!
just because Democrats don't support the war in Iraq doesn't make them traitors, It makes them canadates with a different point of view, isn't that why we have a democratic republic? SO EVERY ONE CAN EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS FREELY???
if they were traitors, they'd bomb the white house, assinate the Bush administration, Send money to Al queda, blow up a bridge, or sell our secrets to terrorists, have you ONCE heard of any Democrat doing that???
NO!
so if you would pleas stop calling these american Citizens traitors, simply because they disagree with our President, it would make you sound a whole lot more intellegent and less hipocritical, as you bash on people for making personal attacks and ignoring the facts, when you do the same and jump to the conclusion that all Left wing advocates are traitors.
Thank you
sincerly,
Spartan
"if they were traitors, they'd bomb the white house, assinate the Bush administration, Send money to Al queda, blow up a bridge, or sell our secrets to terrorists, have you ONCE heard of any Democrat doing that???"
Let me take a shot at that...
Bomb the White House... not yet.
Assinate Bush... not yet, but I believe Randy Rhodes with Air America has talked about this on many occasions.
Send Money to Al Queda... I believe Howard Dean just met with "Code Pink" the group that raised $600,000 last year to aid terrorists in Fallujah.
See more here: http://redstate.org/story/2005/12/6/63323/4862
Blow up a bridge... not yet.
Sell our Secrets to terrorists... Close how about Clinton "selling" our Nuke Tech to Red China for campaign cash?
Nawww, This is nothing the Sissy Party would EVER do.
dean's wordd give aid and comfort to the enemy.
dean's words aid them achieve their goal - to take over iraq.
that makes dean a treasonous traitor.
it's that simple.
and true.
DEANS WORD DOESN'T MEAN SQUATT TO THE ENEMY.
Quite Frankly they don't Give A rats ass if he's for or agianst the war in Iraq, to them he's an American and therfore needs to die.
As to your "not yet" statments, they will NEVER happen because DEMOCRATS are just like republicans in 1 sence, They care about, and Love this Country with every ounce of their being, they just have a different Ideology on how we should go about fighting the War on terror.
I have met Democrats and Republican, In fact just yesterday I had a meetin with Brian Beard The Representitive for Washington State, Im sure I mispelled his name, but oh well. We talked about lots of things like what to do about education and healthcare, and social security. Never once did I hear him talk about hating america or aiding Terrorists orginizations.
once more, look up treason and stop acting like a child.
deans siad we can;t win. this gives succor to the enemy; they are less likely to give up, and more likley to continue to attack.
that is aiding the enemy.
that is treason.
that makes him a traitor.
that is a fact. it is true, incontrovertible.
and the enemy DOES listen to what we say. that is a fact, too.
and asserting that dean is a traitorous treasonous jerk doesn't make me a child.
saying that about me merely makes you seem dense for not getting something so effin simple.
if the DNC chair said we couldn't defeat hitler in ww2, thee would be no controversy -- evertone would agree that it would be treasonous.
tokyo rose and ezra pound did time for syaing just that. others were executed.
properly so.
dean should AT LEAST be fired as chair of the dnc.
but he won;t be, becasue the dems are now run by the lefties anti-american doves.
same crowd that abadioned vietnam and the contras.
i know: i was a lefty dove then.
and i am still a registered dem.
but a zell miller joe lieberman dem.
http://members.aol.com/viperash50/kerry/kerrycommunistmuseum.jpg
Photograph of John Kerry meeting with Comrade Do Muoi, General Secretary of the Communist Party of Vietnam, in Vietnam, July 15-18, 1993. Photo taken in the War Remnants Museum (formerly the "War Crimes Museum") in Saigon in May 2004. "This photograph's unquestionable significance lies in its placement in the American protestors' section of the War Crimes Museum in Saigon. The Vietnamese communists clearly recognize John Kerry's contributions to their victory. This find can be compared to the discovery of a painting of Neville Chamberlain hanging in a place of honor in Hitler's Eagle's Nest in 1945."
I forgot to add above how pathetic it is for "Spartan" to claim the Terrorists are not listening to our Media and Democrat Surrender Monkeys.
Look it up, they are hoping to Drive us out of Iraq just like how they drove Clinton out of Samalia after casualties.
Look up "Paper Tiger and Bin Laden" in a Google Search.
Every road side bomb is targeted to our media and our sissy Democrats to get weak kneed and want to withdrawl.
And "Spartan" your story about spending time with Brian Beard is silly. "Democrats Love this country with every ounce of their being" I'm sure O.J. Simpson loved Nicole with every ounce of his being too!
JOHN KERRY WAS A FOOT SOLDIER!!! he had no more to do with the vietnameese winning than I did the desision of the "Hail Merry" tactic in desert storm. A soldier follows orders and thats it.
You're right about 1 thing, The road side Bombs are Aimed at our media, but NOT our politicians.
And I think you get the Idea that binloden has anything to do with the attacks in Iraq. let me tell you HE DOESN'T
It's insergents doing the violence in Iraq, if you look up the history of the reagon they really do'nt like western invaders, and they have access to the largest stockpile of unsecure weapons in the nation.
spartan the troll wrote: "JOHN KERRY WAS A FOOT SOLDIER"
YEAH: for the anti-wear crowd!
he was a leader of it. befriedned ramsey clark and teddy kennedy then. ansd the dem/left doves have been grooming him ever since.
kerry's appearance at the senate in 1971 was TRAITOROUS. he slandered the US military.
meaning: he lied and knew it; he lied to SMEAR the military and HELP THE ENEMY.
kerry is scum. lying scum
he just this week called our military in Iraq TERRORISTS.
like his 1971 genghis kahan smear.
if I live longer than him, i will PISS ON KERRY'S GRAVE.
Dean said: 1 - "Bring the 80,000 National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately. They don't belong in a conflict like this anyway."
You wrote: FALSE. This is what they're trained for and what we pay them to do. And they're PROUD to do it. AND WE'RE PROUD OF THEM!
I say to you: Uh, FALSE. This is NOT what they're trained for and this is NOT what we pay them to do. This is what we train and pay the REGULAR military to do. The National Guard (until this administration) have *always* been used on the home front. They are trained for things like natural disasters and insurrections and the like. Some "fisk"ing.
Dean said: 2 - "This is the same situation we had in Vietnam. Everybody then kept saying, 'just another year, just stay the course, we'll have a victory.' Well, we didn't have a victory, and this policy cost the lives of an additional 25,000 troops because we were too stubborn to recognize what was happening."
You write: FALSE. The US military NEVER had a major defeat in Vietnam; in fact we WON the Tet Offensive! What is more, all US combat troops were home by 3/29/73, and South Vietnam didn't fall until 1975 - and it only fell because anti-war Lefties like Dean (and me, THEN TOO -- to my eternal shame!) got the Democrats in Congress to ABANDON the South Vietnamese (stop military advising and financial support) WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE Leftie doves like Dean WANT TO DO TO THE IRAQIS NOW!
I say to you: FALSE! If you believe we could have *won* the war in Vietnam if we only stayed another five, ten, twenty, one hundred years, then I have a bridge to sell you (or at least an offensive war in Iraq). Its incomprehensible that you could still, some thirty years later, believe that the fact that our armed forces won battles against the Vietnamese is evidence of the ability to *win* the war. Wars aren't won by body count. Moreover, most lefties like Dean do not want us to just up and move out of the country tomorrow. Most are calling for a timed withdrawal and redeployment of forces with capability to respond to developments in Iraq as they occur. Your argument is a classic red herring.
Dean said: 3 - "... 80% of Iraqis want us to leave, and it's their country."
You wrote: FALSE. This poll is ALL PHONY. Sure, most Iraqis want us to leave, BUT MOST WANT THIS TO HAPPEN ONLY AFTER THEY'VE BEEN MADE SECURE AND SAFE and are able to defend themselves! We won them their country. NOW, we are securing it TOGETHER. Soon, they will defend it themselves.
I say to you: FALSE! the poll was conducted by our own military. Where is your evidence that it "is ALL PHONY"? What polling are YOU relying on that says they only want this to happen "AFTER THEY'VE BEEN MADE SECURE AND SAFE"? Iraqis aren't the fools you take them for. They know that "after they've been made secure and safe" actually means "never."
Dean said: 4 - "What we see today is very much like what was going in Watergate," Dean said. "It turns out there is a lot of good evidence that President Bush did not tell the truth when he was asking Congress for the power to go to war."
You wrote: FALSE. BUSH DID NOT LIE. The Senate had access to exactly what Bush saw, and this was essentially the same intel that Clinton saw - and which led Clinton to launch a misslie attack against Saddam's WMD capability. SURE: there were different and conflicting interpretations of that intel; there always is! Bush took the worst case scenarios WHICH WAS PRUDENT; Bush said he would NOT give Saddam - a vicious tyrant who had used WMD on his own people and attacked his neighbors - the benefit of the doubt. Apparently, Dean and the Lefties would give genocidal tyrants like Saddam the benefit of the doubt. That's why they cannot be trusted with our national security. That's why the electorate MUSTN'T EVER TRUST THE DEMOCRATS WITH OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
I say to you: FALSE. If I have to direct you to the overwhelming evidence that Democrats did NOT have access to the same intelligence, which has been widely-cited and publically available since Bush began pushing this ridiculous meme, then you never really looked to see if it was true at all.
then you babble:
Dean either knows the truth and lies to hurt Bush - and doesn't care if it also hurts the USA and our troops - and is therefore a partisan hack and a traitor, or he is a stupid jerk whose brain is too addled from his ski-bumb years (when he DODGED THE DRAFT AND SKIPPED OUT ON THE VIETNAM WAR, and probably began DECADES OF SMOKING MARIJUANA - I speculate that this is the case because he sounds EXACTLY like so many potheads I used to know!).
In any case, the more he opens his mouth the better. He's the best thing to happen to the GOP in YEARS! He's as wrong as McGovern and one of the crappiest communicators to come along in decades.
The biggest political thing he ever did on his own was LOSE IOWA - and he lost it BIGTIME - after holding a huge lead in the polls and in fundraising! Which proves that he is a loser and an ass. And therefore, Howie is the perfect leader for the Dems - whose mascot is an ass, and who always LOSE! Thank God!
And I say to you, you are a mere useful idiot to those in power if you actually believe any of what you wrote above. your cries of "Traitor!" ring weak and hollow. You are an embarrassment to the principles and freedoms that this country was founded upon. You purport to defend this country from people you view as traitors and you decry anyone who dissents from the war as attacking the troops. Yet what have you done for the war effort other than pat yourself on the back via your keyboard?
"spartan the troll", eh?
very mature replipundint. very mature,
WHERE THE HELL DO YOU GET THE NERVE?
you critisize people you don't agree with for making personal attacks, yet you turn around and do the same god damn thing?
you have the nerve to call others hipocrates, yet you're one your self.
oh the iorny!!!!!!
as for your childish statments, (which isn't much a suprise with you right wing folk, atleast the idiots on the left are more logical)
John Kerry had no intention of aiding the enemy, his intention was to stop the needless bloodshead for an unwinnable war.
I guess caring for human life makes you a traitor to the right wing. shocking.
spartan;
(1) it is my blog; i can delete whatever i want.
(2) you wrote:
"John Kerry had no intention of aiding the enemy, his intention was to stop the needless bloodshead for an unwinnable war."
When kerry slandered the US military in 1971 we were WINNING.
When he slandered the US military LAST WEEK, we were WINNING TOO!
Slandering YOUR OWN military (which DIRECTLY serves the enemy)
AND WHILE your own nation is at war IS TREASON.
Kerry is a trairor.
Has been since 1971.
ALSO: Kerry DIRECTLY supported the Marxist totalitarians in Nicaragua - the Ortega crowd - WHILE OUR ALLIES (democrats - small "d") were enaged ion a war to overthrow them.
And BTW: AS SOON AS the Nicaraguans could have a DEMOCRATIC election - THEY THREW OUT THE MARXISTS!
The folks Kerry supported.
Kerry is a vile evil traitorpus treasonous scumbag. And saying so is NOT slander because iut is TRUE.
It is NOT an ad homionem attack becasue it is based on HIS ACTIONS AND WORDS.
And so is my calling you a TROLL.
Based on your actions.
You NEVER read the links I rpovide, but meely spew the leftist-line.
You ifnore the arguments made here.
please stop commenting. I will delete all your comments which are non-germaine.
Your repeated comments inthe face of INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence proves you are a troll/a waste of time.
spartan;
(1) it is my blog; i can delete whatever i want.
(2) you wrote:
"John Kerry had no intention of aiding the enemy, his intention was to stop the needless bloodshead for an unwinnable war."
When kerry slandered the US military in 1971 we were WINNING.
When he slandered the US military LAST WEEK, we were WINNING TOO!
Slandering YOUR OWN military (which DIRECTLY serves the enemy)
AND WHILE your own nation is at war IS TREASON.
Kerry is a trairor.
Has been since 1971.
ALSO: Kerry DIRECTLY supported the Marxist totalitarians in Nicaragua - the Ortega crowd - WHILE OUR ALLIES (democrats - small "d") were enaged ion a war to overthrow them.
And BTW: AS SOON AS the Nicaraguans could have a DEMOCRATIC election - THEY THREW OUT THE MARXISTS!
The folks Kerry supported.
Kerry is a vile evil traitorpus treasonous scumbag. And saying so is NOT slander because iut is TRUE.
It is NOT an ad homionem attack becasue it is based on HIS ACTIONS AND WORDS.
And so is my calling you a TROLL.
Based on your actions.
You NEVER read the links I rpovide, but meely spew the leftist-line.
You ignore the arguments made here.
please stop commenting. I will delete all your comments which are non-germaine.
Your repeated comments inthe face of INCONTROVERTIBLE evidence proves you are a troll/a waste of time.
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