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Monday, October 24, 2005

IS BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION MORE CURRUPT THAN CLINTON'S?

Howeird Dean is at it again: The Bush White House is the most corrupt administration in U.S. history since President Warren G. Harding's, said Howard Dean during his first visit to Maine as chairman of the Democratic National Committee. ... "I'm tired of the ayatollahs of the right wing," Dean said.

WELL: Is it true? Is the Bush Adminstration "corrupt?" Is it the "most corrupt in history?" Is it even more corrupt than Clinton's? NO. Not by a mile. To date, there has not been a single indictment of ANY Bush Administration member. By comparison:
"According to our best information, [A] 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate [NIXON]. [B] ... there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. [C]47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. [AND] 14 persons were imprisoned." [Including Web Hubbell - crony. And don't forget Jimmy Carter crony Bert Lance and BCCI!] UPDATE: (for Clintonistas) - do the names Cisneros and Espy ring a bell? If not, then GOOGLE them!
THEREFORE: Even IF Fitzgerald indicts a few adminstration officials, it will STILL mean that George W. Bush has run the cleanest adminstration in HALF A CENTURY!

UPDATE: Welcome DAILY PUNDIT readers and Blogs For Bush readers!

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself.

So you're comparing Bush administration officials to people "associated" with the "Clinton machine".

Pretty transparent and sad. How many of these associates were administration officials? And have you done a count of "Bush machine" convictions and pleas using the same definition of "associate"? I'm sure it's a very tight definition...

reliapundit said...

u r a s--mbag.
espy and cisneros were cabinet officials - INDICTED. as was hubbell.

and web hubbell was a dep att gen.

NO ONE IN THE ENTIRE BUSH CABINET OR SUBCABINET HAS BEEN INDITCED.

dems da fax sh--head. read'em an' weep.

now f--koff!

Anonymous said...

So now the score is 2 indictments to zero among baniet and subcabinet officials. Thanks for clearing that up. I guess for now you're limiting the group to cabinet and subcabinet officials... that should help you until the end of the week, but you may have to move the goalposts again after Fitzgerald concludes his investigation.

Your new standard does disqualify Bush's chief procurement officer, David Safavian, who was indicted last month. It also disqualifies the GOP Majority Leader, who was indicted last month. It also disqualifies James Tobin, Bush's former campaign leader in New England and a RNC regional director, who was indicted in December 2004. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

To use your own charmingly misspelled and dash-filled vernacular, "Dems da fax, douch-bag."

reliapundit said...

your are scum, anonymous-baby!

(1) savafian was NOT a memeber od the Bush Adm when he was indicted, and he was NOT indicted for anyhting he did while he was a member of the Admin.

(2) neither frist or delay are mebers of the admin.

(3) THREE clinton biggies were indicted and convicted. two SECRETARIES and a dep AG. THAT IS HUGE CORRUPTION BABY!

Bush has had NO ONE indicted - as in zilch nada zippo bupkus niente riens. ZERO.

is that too hard for your teeeeeeny weeeeeny leftist brain to cpomprehend!?>!?

so: when dean says this is the most corrupt admin in US history he is JUST EFFING WRONG.

totally effing wrong. wrong.

those are the facts.

buh-byeee!

Anonymous said...

That's your response? Really?? How amusing. You're willing to engage in blissful ignorance of the GOP/Bush indictments because now all of a sudden you're only interested in cabinet and sub-cabinet officials. It's childish, but it's your blog so you should feel free to change your standards as you go.

You've already backpedaled furiously from the mysterious "Clinton machine" standard that you initially used. Now you're refusing to do a similar evaluation for Bush (gosh, I can't imagine why) and instead simlpy dropping your count from 61 "machine" indictments down to two. Or three. Apparently an Associate AG convicted for actions prior to his work as as AG counts in your tally. At least you've admitted that the count is 3-0, and I guess we'll have to just wait and see the final score after Bush's terms are completed.

reliapundit said...

you are a freakydeaky jerk. my standard was that the BUSH ADMINISTRATION is less corrupt than the CLINTON ADMINSTARTION., that's the post's freakydeaky title you moonbatmoron!

no backpedalling your freakydeaky moonbatmoron!

just facts.

ZERO BUSH INDICTMENTS versus several Clinton ones, and three convioctions of cabinet members. other got away by the skinoftheirteeth, like oleary and herman. and that bernie lawyer fella.

by any OBJECTIVE measure, the Bush Administrationn is the cleanest since fdr.

3-0.

and espy and cisneros and hubbell were WHOPPERS.

hubbell was a very VERY high ranking CRONY as well as a crook.

clintoin surrounded himself with crooks for a decade before he was prez, and while he was prez.

BTW: i am a registered de, have been sionce 1974. i am a zell miller dem. there used to be a lot of us.

now the party is dominated by schmucks like you.

sad.

AlphaPatriot said...

To be fair, Espy was was acquitted on all 39 counts of corruption.

What is not mentioned is the selling of the Lincoln bedroom and military secrets to China. Not to mention everything from Travelgate to Monicagate.

A "Culture" is something that runs through everyday life. Like in the Clinton White House.

reliapundit said...

indictments are just that. convictions are another matter. my post spoke of clinton administraton indictments.

so today, exactly one member of the bush admn has been indicted on 5 counts related to an investigation for which the central crime ewas NOT commited: a violation of the I.I.P.A.

comapred to the previous five presidents - of BOTH parties - this is the CLEANEST admin, not the most corrupt, as dean charged.

that is simple enough for lefties to understand, i hope.

independent1 said...

Is it Facts you want? OK. Here are some.

Not one conviction during the Whitewater investigation involved misconduct by anyone in public office. (Except for Clinton lying about sex) Only one involved a transaction that had even a remote connection to Clinton. The Whitewater prosecutor wanted to establish a connection in another case but produced no evidence. Only four of the 14 people convicted had ever had any personal or political connection to Clinton. Most of them were either Clinton’s political enemies or perfect strangers whose business misdeeds came to light when prosecutors looked into the mid-’80s transactions of David Hale and Jim McDougal.

Here are the Whitewater convictions:

David Hale Jr. — Defrauding the federal Small Business Administration through his lending company. The Clinton administration turned him in to the U.S. attorney in 1993. Hale’s support for Frank White against Clinton in 1980 got him a judgeship from White, and he laundered SBA money into White’s race against Clinton in 1986.

Eugene Fitzhugh and Charles D. Matthews — Two misdemeanors each for helping Hale defraud the SBA. They arranged for a Louisiana man to make a short-term loan to Hale, who listed it as a capital asset so that he could qualify illegally for $900,000 in SBA money. Neither the transactions or the men had anything to do with Clinton.

Robert W. Palmer — Filing a false real estate appraisal for Madison Guaranty Savings and Loan Corp. No connection to the Clintons.

Chris Wade — Bankruptcy fraud and submitting false applications to a financial institution. A real estate broker at Flippin, Wade hid personal assets from the government when he filed for bankruptcy but was found out when he used the assets to acquire a lot in Whitewater Estates from a Texas man. No connection to the Clintons.

Neal T. Ainley — Failing to report to the IRS in 1990 that his bank had made two loans exceeding $10,000 to Clinton’s campaign for governor, the only case related to the Clintons. A law designed to detect drug dealers required the reports. It was not established what benefit there was to not reporting the loans because the Clinton campaign reported them to the Arkansas secretary of state.

Steve Smith — Misapplying a business loan from Madison Guaranty. Smith had been an aide to Clinton in the 1970s but left the governor’s office in a dispute with the governor in 1980.

Larry Kuca — Misapplying a loan from Hale’s company. No connection with Clinton.

Webb Hubbell — Embezzling $400,000 from Hillary Clinton and other partners in the Rose Law Firm. He later was a deputy attorney general under Clinton.

Jim McDougal — Fraud and conspiracy in the operation of Madison Guaranty and Hale’s loan company. He and his wife had been partners with Clinton in Whitewater Development Co., formed in 1978, and he was briefly an aide to Clinton in his first term as governor. None of the crimes was related to any activity of the Clintons.

Susan McDougal — Misusing SBA loan funds from Hale. Hale maintained that Clinton once asked him if he was going to make the loan. Clinton said he never knew about the loan, had no interest in it and never had a conversation about it.

Jim Guy Tucker — Defrauding the IRS in a sham bankruptcy when he sold a cable television company in Texas. The IRS and the Justice Department in 2003 agreed that the law Tucker was convicted of violating had been repealed. Tucker, a longtime political foe of Clinton and his successor as governor, was also convicted of fraud and conspiracy with McDougal in loan transactions with Hale, but the transactions had no connection to Clinton.

John Haley and William S. Marks Sr. — Misdemeanor counts of submitting false information to the IRS in Tucker’s behalf on the cable TV bankruptcy. The law they helped him violate had been repealed. Again, no connection to Clinton.

Anonymous said...

You absolute MORONS who believe the Bush admin. is not corrupt. And by the way you say no member of Bush's administration have been indicted, what about I. Lewis Libby. Then we have a contrived war using false intel and if that aint corrupt what about the 9 billion dollars in reconstruction money that just vanished into thin air. If they ain't corrupt they sure as hell are stupid. You neo-cons are all the same corrupt and brainless.