GREAT STORY.PROFESSOR BAINBRIDGE ON OBAMA AND THE BCS:
One day shortly after the Second World War ended, Winston Churchill and Labour Party Prime Minister Clement Attlee encountered one another at the urinal trough in the House of Common’s men’s washroom. Attlee arrived first. When Churchill arrived, he stood as far away from him as possible. Attlee said, “Feeling standoffish today, are we, Winston?” Churchill said: “That’s right. Every time you see something big, you want to nationalize it.”
I’m reminded of that story by news that President Obama plans to regulate the college football playoff system. . . . With the government already running the banks and the auto industry, and trying to take over the health care industry, however, one might have hoped that sports would escape the ravening maw of Leviathan.
But I guess Attlee and Obama are kindred spirits.
Well, let’s hope that Obama doesn’t do for America what Attlee did for Britain, though that does seem to be the goal . . . .
ER, UM... BUT WE MADE THE COMPARISON BETWEEN OBAMA AND ATTLEE SEVERAL TIMES AS LONG AGO AS A YEAR AND HALF.
WE FREAKIN' OWN IT:
A WARNING POSTED ON JULY 20, 2008 - BEFORE THE ECONOMIC MELTDOWN AND THE ELECTION:
WHAT CHURCHILL'S LOSS IN 1945 MIGHT TELL US ABOUT 2008 IN THE USA
BBC - JULY 26, 1945, (ALMOST EXACTLY 63 YEARS AGO):Clement Attlee has been elected Britain's new prime minister after Labour won a sweeping victory in the general election.Tired of war, the British people thought they could take a holiday from history - again, just as they had after WW1.
The outgoing prime minister and great wartime leader Winston Churchill tendered his resignation immediately.
The landslide victory comes as a major shock to the Conservatives following Mr Churchill's hugely successful term as Britain's war-time coalition leader, during which he mobilised and inspired courage in an entire nation.
People voted for Attlee, in spite of admiring Churchill as a hero
... Mr Attlee, 62, was welcomed by the King shortly afterwards and asked to form a new Government.
Throughout the election campaign Mr Churchill had appealed to the country to give his new National Government - formed after the dissolution of the Coalition government in May - a good majority.
But the appeal was rejected by the people of Britain, largely, it is thought, because they believed Labour's promises to implement the Beveridge Report and its plans for creating a welfare state.
Just as we did after the collapse of the USSR.
And the people who want Obama to become POTUS and CiC are animated by the same misguided, irrational and anti-historical impulses.
And the desire to have the government do for them what they should do for themselves.
The British Welfare State - like ours and like welfare states everywhere - was a failure. It diminished Great Britain and led to increased suffering. It took 30 years and Thatcher to undo it's stranglehold and save Britain from collapse.
The USA and Great Britain don't need to replay the mistakes of the past and elect Attlees or Carters or Clintons.
We don't need to take another holiday from history - not with Iran and al Qaeda still threatening the free world.
We don't need to expand the welfare state. That would just drag down the entire economy, if not the world's economy.
We don't need another Clement Attlee.
We need Reagans and Thatchers.
The closest we'll come this election is McCain - who is more like Churchill than Attlee.CLEMENT ATTLEE OBAMA -
a dove who wants to reinvigorate the welfare state
THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION:
JUST OVER A YEAR AGO, 1/18/09 (EXCERPT):Wednesday, November 05, 2008
PREDICTION: THE ELECTION OF AMERICA'S "CLEMENT ATTLEE" WILL BRING ON "THE OBAMA INTIFADA"
We first posted on this parallel in July, and it has come to pass: THE USA ELECTED ITS ATTLEE.
WIKI ON ATTLEE:The government he led put in place the post-war consensus, based upon the assumption that full employment would be maintained by Keynesian policies, and that a greatly enlarged system of social services would be created -- aspirations that had been outlined in the wartime Beveridge Report. Within this context, his government undertook the nationalisation of major industries and public utilities as well as the creation of the National Health Service. After initial Conservative opposition, this settlement was by and large accepted by all parties[2] until Margaret Thatcher became leader of the Conservative Party in the 1970s.WHAT WE POSTED IN JULY 2008:Tired of war, the British people thought they could take a holiday from history - again, just as they had after WW1.WELL... HERE WE GO AGAIN!
Just as we did after the collapse of the USSR.
And the people who want Obama to become POTUS and CiC are animated by the same misguided, irrational and anti-historical impulses.
And the desire to have the government do for them what they should do for themselves.
The British Welfare State - like ours and like welfare states everywhere - was a failure. It diminished Great Britain and led to increased suffering. It took 30 years and Thatcher to undo it's stranglehold and save Britain from collapse.
The USA and Great Britain don't need to replay the mistakes of the past and elect Attlees or Carters or Clintons.
We don't need to take another holiday from history - not with Iran and al Qaeda still threatening the free world.
We don't need to expand the welfare state. That would just drag down the entire economy, if not the world's economy.
We don't need another Clement Attlee.
We need Reagans and Thatchers.
The closest we'll come this election is McCain - who is more like Churchill than Attlee.CLEMENT ATTLEE OBAMA -
a dove who wants to reinvigorate the welfare state
The socialistic policies of Attlee and Obama always have the same results.
The policy of appeasement always has the same results, too.
Socialism and appeasement will make the USA weaker and poorer - and this sends a clear signal to our adversaries.
Because weakness invites adventurism, there will be another intifada in Israel (their third), another in Europe - AND OUR FIRST IN THE USA.
THE OBAMA INTIFADA.
And Putin and Iran will become more aggressive in Venezuela.
And Putin will become more aggressive in Georgia and Ukraine.
And Iran will become more aggressive in Iraq.
And al Qaeda will become more aggressive in Pakistan and Kashmir.
And al Qaeda will attack us here again, too.
Obama will weaken our defenses by weakening our ability to gather intel by weakening the NSA Intercept Programs.
Obama will weaken us by ceasing deployment of Missile defense in Eastern Europe and Alaska.
And Obama will weaken us by cutting the defense budget.
TO AVOID THE CATASTROPHE OBAMA'S POLICIES WILL PRODUCE, WE MUST FIGHT OBAMA'S DANGEROUS POLICIES EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
WE SHALL.
"OBAMA IS NOT ANOTHER LINCOLN; HE'S ANOTHER CLEMENT ATTLEE"
3/2/09 (EXCERPT):
- WE NEED ANOTHER THATCHER AND WE NEED HER NOW!
- THATCHER UNDID ATTLEE'S NATIONALIZATION AND SOCIALISM - AND SAVED BRITAIN.
- OBAMA IS OUR ATTLEE.
- WHERE IS OUR THATCHER?!
5/22/09 (EXCERPT):
THE UNBRIDLED SOCIALISM OF OBAMA
He's taken over the auto industry.
And a lot of the banking/financial industry.
And he has his eyes on the healthcare industry.
Together, they make up a BIG chunk of the economy. What... maybe 30%? Plus the federal government already is a huge part of the economy.
This explosive growth of the government is an un-American intrusion into pour businesses and is FUNDAMENTALLY anti-freemarket.
There's been nothing like it since Attlee took over from Churchill after WW2 - and nationalized about 60% of the British economy. RUINING IT FOR THREE DECADES!
10/31/09:
I HAVEN'T POSTED ALL THIS TO BRAG.OBAMA: THE MOST LEFT-WING PRESIDENT IN THE ENTIRE WEST SINCE CLEMENT ATTLEE
WHAT OBAMA, SOROS AND THE SEIU ARE ATTEMPTING
IS NOTHING LESS THAN THE ATTLEEFICATION OF AMERICA.AN ADMINISTRATION OF THE LEFT, BY THE LEFT
AND FOR THE LEFT.
IT'S TO PROVE THAT WHAT MY 1500 READERS A DAY READ HERE IS AT LEAST AS GOOD AS WHAT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE READ EACH DAY AT THE BIG BLOGS.
AS A FEW OF MY GREAT CO-BLOGGERS KNOW, IT'S FRUSTRATING TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON SO MANY THINGS AND ON SO MUCH ANALYSIS AND TO GET COMPARATIVELY LITTLE BIG-TIME LINKAGE ON IT OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FOR IT.
GLENN AND BAINBRIDGE ARE BIGTIME RESPECTED BLOGGERS, YET I BEAT THEM ON THIS BY YEARS.
AND I BEAT THEM AND OTHER BIGTIME BLOGGERS BY MONTHS AND WEEKS AND DAYS ON SOME ITEM EVERY SINGLE DAMN WEEK.
SIGH.
WHAT CAN IS SAY!?
I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE!
THANKS!
I mean that. Thank you. Thank you for all 2,000,000+ page views!
Attlee was a wonderful Prime Minister. He may not have had the PR qualities of today's politicians but he was full of substance - as Thatcher also said! Trust me personally, I would choose Attlee over Thatcher anyday. Thatcher believed that having 3 million unemployed was a reasonable price to pay for her policy; Attlee would not have permitted this. I am British and proud!
ReplyDeleteYou said:
ReplyDelete"The British Welfare State - like ours and like welfare states everywhere - was a failure. It diminished Great Britain and led to increased suffering. It took 30 years and Thatcher to undo it's stranglehold and save Britain from collapse."
How could you possibly know? And by the way, your own education seems to have suffered. The word "it's" in this context doesn't have an apostrophe. Please get the basics of the English language right before you feel able to pontificate on another country's history.
You can have whatever views you like but you will not convince anyone if they are simply based on prejudice or ignorance.
geof - you stupid twat - if attlee welfare state was working fine, then what did thatchwr do and why is the nhs as fucking disaster to this day?
ReplyDeleteassholes like you whoo komplane abowt spelliyng are nameless leftist smallminded scum.
There are millions of intellectual trolls circulating the internet. Mr Reliapundit is clearly one of them. His own language betrays him. Poorly educated, a humiliated failure at home and at school he lives a miserable existence with his only consolation being his splenetic, vulgar language and nasty, stupid politics. In another era he would be Brownshirt fodder; in this period he is simply a social inadequate.
ReplyDeleteMr Reliapundit I really do sympathise! Sadly, there is little I can do to help.
By the way, this is supposed to be a moderated blog! Or is it simply a means for nasty people to exchange nasty ideas?
LISTEN UP YOU LEFTIST DUPE:
ReplyDeleteI HAVE 2 DEGREES FROM MAJOR USA UNIVERSITIES,
I HAVE EARNED MORE THAN A MILLION BUCKS OVER MY ADULT LIFE, MANAGED A HUNDRED MILLION IN COMMERCE.
SOLD SCRIPTS.
HAVE PAINTINGS IN MAJOR COLLECTIONS.
SUPPORTED MY ILL FATHER AND MOTHER.
HELPED SUPPORT MY BROTHERS AS ONE WENT TO MED SCHOOL AND THE OTHER STARTED A BIZ.
LIVE ALONE.
AM STILL A REGISTERED DEM
WAS AN ANTIWAR LEFTIST DUPE UNTIL I WAS 30.
SO FUCK OFF YOU IDIOT WHO KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT ME OR HISTORY OR THE TRUTH.
YOU ARE A DESPICABLE LOWLY LEFTIST DUPE.
OPEN YOUR FUCKING EYES OR FUCK THE HELL OFF.
OPEN A BOOK ABOUT ATTLEE AND CHURCHILL YOU STUPID GREASY NAMELESS PILE OF IDIOTIC CODSWALLOP BLENDED WITH BULL EXCREMENT.
one more thing you anal wart, geoffffff:
ReplyDeleteyou attacked me personally first and hence the personal attack in return.
like obama says: if you bring knives, then i bring guns.
ruirdich;
ReplyDeleteeverything good remaining about britain is owed to thatcher.
without thatcher, the attlee social welfare state run by politicians and labor unions would have long ago reduced Britain to something much worse off than greece today.
oh and ruairidihcy;
ReplyDeletechurchill gave chamberlain a lovely eulogy.
even kept him the cabinet after displacing him.
always said neville was well-meaning.
that doesn't make the munich agreement any less stupid and wrong and evil.
so thatcher's kind and magnanimous words about attlee can't ever be construed as an endorsement of his leftism.