After reaching a level of between 150 and 200 arson fires per night, the media in Denmark now reports, with a sense of relief, that there were "only" 88 fires last night.
The Copenhagen intifada has garnered some attention in the International Media... and Prime Minister Rasmussen appeared on DR TV news to condemn the action of the "troublemakers"- though without offering any kind of plan to end the vandalism.
I think the government is waiting for the danish weather - cold rain - to end the disturbances...
The Copenhagen intifada has garnered some attention in the International Media... and Prime Minister Rasmussen appeared on DR TV news to condemn the action of the "troublemakers"- though without offering any kind of plan to end the vandalism.
I think the government is waiting for the danish weather - cold rain - to end the disturbances...
In his daily roundup for 15 February, Richard at the Belmont Club argues that the Copenhagen Intifada is more proof of the failure of the Welfare State.
This argument is nothing but the manipulation of fact by Fernandez to fit his preordained world view.
ONE COULD ARGUE THAT THIS IS PROOF OF THE SUCCESS OF THE WELFARE STATE: 99% of the Danish Public are content; they are only affected by this nightly crime ritual because they hear about it on the morning news; they believe these troublemakers should be punished or deported but the STATE LACKS THE POWER APPARATUS TO QUASH THE TROUBLEMAKERS!
(And Fernandez - the Danish State lacks the police force and legal tools to act because the welfare state by-in-large does function...)
My errand here is not to defend the Welfare State - but you must understand that when danish citizens provide - through their taxes - "FREE" universal (sometimes mediocre) healthcare, "FREE" education (also mediocre sometimes) - including technical schools, universities etc. - and CASH support to college students of about $1200 per month, RENT subsidies, subsidized dental care, quarterly payments to families with children - then you can also understand that Danes are tired of these troublemakers - and would be pleased to see them disappear.
Numerous commentators have taken this past weeks unrest and mixed it in with latest Muhammad Cartoon controversy, the situation in the Middle East etc. etc.
Hizb-ut-Tahrir also tried to gain exposure from the current situation.
Yes - these factors do play a sort of amorphous, tertiary role - but we are better served by keeping our apples separated from oranges.
The wave of arson and vandalism is being committed by maladjusted youths, mostly children of immigrants from muslim countries.
Many of the perpetrators are below the legal age limit to be prosecuted, and they are being directed by older teenagers and young men.
This hierarchy reflects the structure of the existing network of criminal gangs involved in petty thievery and drug trafficking.
These youths are by in large not at all politically conscious - judging from their comments on the news one wonders if they are conscious at all!
But there is a real danger that this criminal environment will be the agar agar of future terrorists.
RELIAPUNDIT ADDS: I love this photo: the cops with their hands in their pockets - doing ZIPPO. How liberal. This is the kind of response which allows the enemy to encroach ever-steadily.
Hizb-ut-Tahrir also tried to gain exposure from the current situation.
Yes - these factors do play a sort of amorphous, tertiary role - but we are better served by keeping our apples separated from oranges.
The wave of arson and vandalism is being committed by maladjusted youths, mostly children of immigrants from muslim countries.
Many of the perpetrators are below the legal age limit to be prosecuted, and they are being directed by older teenagers and young men.
This hierarchy reflects the structure of the existing network of criminal gangs involved in petty thievery and drug trafficking.
These youths are by in large not at all politically conscious - judging from their comments on the news one wonders if they are conscious at all!
But there is a real danger that this criminal environment will be the agar agar of future terrorists.
RELIAPUNDIT ADDS: I love this photo: the cops with their hands in their pockets - doing ZIPPO. How liberal. This is the kind of response which allows the enemy to encroach ever-steadily.
i disagree with your analysis.
ReplyDeleteit is riddled with contradiction.
NOTHING the welfare doles out is "free" - Danes pay high income taxes and a very high sales tax.
all that you claim is free is merely prepaid BY EVERYONE with no regard for who get what.
a ridiculous system.
a ridiculous system which VERY often yields INFERIOR results - you use the term MEDIOCRE, which is being kind.
need i remind you that no one is denied care in the USA illegals get free healthcare - and these costs are part of what's driving people to hate the illegals. of the so-called 45million "uninsured" 12 million are illegals, 12 million are temporarily without insurance - because of employment situations - and 12 million are people who can afford care but CHOOSE not to buy it --- MOSTLY YOUTH BETWEEN24-34.
I have blogged on this a few time with links.
ALSO:
the argument you make that the fact that Danes aren;t exercized ovewr the week of widespread violence proves the welfare states works is ludicrous.
people SHOULD be exercized over this kind of crap - ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU YOURSELF ADMIT THAT THE "YOUTHS" WHO ARE DOING THIS ARE TOLD TO BY THEIR ELDERS.
it is s directed intifada. purposeful. to make danes submit. to start "creeping sharia."
also:
your argument that the fact that Denmark doesn't have enough COPS proves the welfare state works IS NUTS.
like NYC before Rudy.
as you wrote:
"the STATE LACKS THE POWER APPARATUS TO QUASH THE TROUBLEMAKERS!"
you describe a state which is not functioning.
the fact you refuse to connect the ritos to the mohummad cartoons is simply DENIAL.
this is no coincidence.
the fact that CHILDREN/YOUTHS of msulim immigrantsare doing this is no coincidence.
as in the UK and FRANCE, the native-born (euro)children of foreign born but assimilated muslims are the HOODLUMS.
the youth is RADICALIZED.
they are not worse off then their parents, or in need of more ANYTHIMNG; they ar radicalized.
my dear dear dear friend: from the sound of you defense of the welfare state and the danish cops claiming it was just bad apples and mild weather: you are halfway to dhimmitude.
I WONDER:
ReplyDeletewhen the netherlands gets a dose of the muslim thuggery...
(like france did a few year back and Israel before that and thailand now)
...will you argue its the weather, the welfare state - or the release of the geert wilders movie "FITNA" and the concomitant islamo-thuggery backlash!?!?!?
the connection si obvious: the ritoing youths in danmark were not blond lutherans.
why not!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Reliapundit - you are welcome to disagree with my analysis.
ReplyDeleteWith regard to the welfare state my poin is this: The absence of apparent social injustice through the redistribution of wealth by the welfare state diminishes the need for a police/security apparatus to protect the have from the have-nots, hence the danish police are not equipped to deal with the trouble makers...
When I say free I mean free of charge to the user! I am quite clear that it is paid for by taxpayers!!!
In political circles here the socialists place the blame on society, the right wing government places responsibility sqarely upon the perpetrators.
It should be clear from my postings that I think the perpetrators have a total lack of respect for the democratic process and the society they live in....
you write: the perps are
ReplyDelete"... mostly children of immigrants from muslim countries. "
WHY!?!?
it's the jihad.
lutherans and anarchists are not doing/fomenting/directing this.
take a deep breath, and smell the jihad.
it isn't spontaneous.
it's widespread.
and always the same type of people: muslims.
if they wore swastikas then maybe the libs/left would take notice.
geert wilders is right: the koran must be treated like mein kampf.
you wrote:
ReplyDelete"The absence of apparent social injustice through the redistribution of wealth by the welfare state diminishes the need for a police/security apparatus to protect the have from the have-nots..."
this is liberal nonsense. sounds like lib crap fropm the 1960's.
Crime is not perped by have-nots. that's an old lib canard.
crime is perped by criminals - many are wealthy thru crime. organized and not.
criminals are bad people who do whatever they think they can get away with.
poor people are not more criminal than rich. bad people ARE more criminal than good. and poverty doesn't make people bad. that's a slur on poor people. and a li9b/wel;fare state excuse.
rudy lowered criome in crime-infested NYC by clamping-down on/eradicated the bad guys, not by handing out MORE welfarfe - that lib policy failed miserably in NYC and across the USA from 1950-1992.
ALSO: there's TONS of crime in denmark: LIKE TAX EVASION. and much bad behavior is legal: drugs, prostitution, etc.
the lack of violence is NOT because of the welfare state but because danish culture is not violent; danes don't teach their kids to resolve conflict and make material gains thru violence.
muslim kids are taught this; they are tauight that honor-killing is okay, and genocide against infidels a requirement of their faith.
these islamo-thugs cannot coexist within any western secular sociaet6y.
thinking they can is denial.
also:::::::
ReplyDeleteYOU WROTE:
"But there is a real danger that this criminal environment will be the agar agar of future terrorists."
NONE OF THE 9/11 TERRORISTS AND NONE OF THE LONDON BOMBERS WERE CRIMINALS.
CRIMINALITY IS NOT THE AGAR DISH FOR JIHADOTERROR.
ISLAM IS.
AND IT IS ISLAM:
ReplyDeleteAND IT AINT JUST ME SAYING IT; IT'S LOCAL IMAMS:
Muslims pray at the Islamic Faith Community Center in Copenhagen, Denmark Friday Feb. 15, 2008. Imam Mostafa Chendid urged during the prayers for youths to calm down and stop the recent burning of cars and property, saying it was hurting the image of Islam. (AP Photo/John McConnico)
The disenfranchised Muslim youths torched at least one elementary school this week.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/02/
more-rioting-in-denmark-mosque-urges.html
PRAY TELL ME NS: WHAT ARE THESE YOUTH DISENFRANCHISED FROM IN THE WONDERFUL WELFARE STATE OF DENMARK!>?
ANSWER: they willfully elect to disenfranchise themselves.
ReplyDeleteand they seek to disenfranchise you and your family and your neighbors.