BETSY'S PAGE linked to a column by MONA CHAREN about "the [California] judge stopping the execution of a brutal murderer in California because there is the slight possibility that he may experience some pain during the execution."
This convicted murderer (Michael Morales) brutally raped, tortured and then murdered his 17 year old female victim (Terri Lynn Winchell).
This convicted murderer raped and tortured and murdered his innocent victim 25 years ago.
This convicted murderer has had 25 years of exhaustive appeals - and all of his appeals failed to clear him on any ground, for any reason.
This convicted murderer should now - ACCORDING TO THE LAW - be executed for his crimes.
If some judges and some doctors in the state of California no longer feel that they can safely and humanely execute this convicted murderer by using lethal injection, then I have a perfectly good alternative method:
WHY DON'T THEY JUST WITHHOLD FOOD AND WATER FROM HIM!?
After all, as we learned in the TERRI SCHIAVO case - death by forced dehydration and starvation is perfectly painless and humane.
[ASIDE: Of course, the Left would NEVER sanction an execution by forced dehydration and forced starvation on a convicted rapist murderer. That would be cruel. Execution by forced dehyadration and forced starvation is only humane when it's done to a helpless patient whose family is in a dispute as to the wishes of the patient.
Which begs the question: What is it about post-modern Leftism that make Leftists defend the rights of murderers and terrorists more than the rights of regular citizens?
I believe the answer is that post-modern Leftism is essentially an ant-Western/anti-Judeo-Christian ideology which favors anything that attacks traditional Western/Judeo-Christian civilization.
Whether the Left is FOR gay marriage, or AGAINST enemy combatant status/Gitmo/renditions/the NSA intercept program; whether it is FOR ceding USA war-making authority to the UN, or AGAINST the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance; whether it is FOR bi-lingualism and multi-culturalism, or AGAINST better illegal immigration border controls - the ONLY thing which unites ALL the Left's positions is that they denigrate traditonal Western and American values, and/or weaken our ability to defend the West and America.
Nothing could more prove their Fifth Column status.]
This convicted murderer (Michael Morales) brutally raped, tortured and then murdered his 17 year old female victim (Terri Lynn Winchell).
This convicted murderer raped and tortured and murdered his innocent victim 25 years ago.
This convicted murderer has had 25 years of exhaustive appeals - and all of his appeals failed to clear him on any ground, for any reason.
This convicted murderer should now - ACCORDING TO THE LAW - be executed for his crimes.
If some judges and some doctors in the state of California no longer feel that they can safely and humanely execute this convicted murderer by using lethal injection, then I have a perfectly good alternative method:
WHY DON'T THEY JUST WITHHOLD FOOD AND WATER FROM HIM!?
After all, as we learned in the TERRI SCHIAVO case - death by forced dehydration and starvation is perfectly painless and humane.
[ASIDE: Of course, the Left would NEVER sanction an execution by forced dehydration and forced starvation on a convicted rapist murderer. That would be cruel. Execution by forced dehyadration and forced starvation is only humane when it's done to a helpless patient whose family is in a dispute as to the wishes of the patient.
Which begs the question: What is it about post-modern Leftism that make Leftists defend the rights of murderers and terrorists more than the rights of regular citizens?
I believe the answer is that post-modern Leftism is essentially an ant-Western/anti-Judeo-Christian ideology which favors anything that attacks traditional Western/Judeo-Christian civilization.
Whether the Left is FOR gay marriage, or AGAINST enemy combatant status/Gitmo/renditions/the NSA intercept program; whether it is FOR ceding USA war-making authority to the UN, or AGAINST the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance; whether it is FOR bi-lingualism and multi-culturalism, or AGAINST better illegal immigration border controls - the ONLY thing which unites ALL the Left's positions is that they denigrate traditonal Western and American values, and/or weaken our ability to defend the West and America.
Nothing could more prove their Fifth Column status.]
Answer to your question is that Tery Schiavo was in a persistive vegatative state. She was not awake and alert and able to experience starvation. Starvation is very painful.
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WHY DON'T THEY JUST WITHHOLD FOOD AND WATER FROM HIM!?
After all, as we learned in the TERRI SCHIAVO case - death by forced dehydration and starvation is perfectly painless and humane.
anon 12:16;
ReplyDeletei guess you are arguing that since terri was (according to most doctors, but not all) in a PVS - persistent veg. state,
that it would have been okay to electrocute her or hang her or draw & quarter her!?
and that if we perfromed a brain operation on morales - to make put him in a clinical vegitative state, or if we disconnected his pain-awareness - that it would be okay to put him in a meat-grinder!?
SHEESH.
what is humane should extend further than that.
especially with INNOCENT people like terri.
less so with rapist murderers like morales.
you - and theis leftioe judge - are essentially arguing that any form of execution is okay once the target is under total anaesthisia.
i am arghing that innocent people like terri should be treated BETTER than convicted rapist murderers - and that she wasn't. in a family dispute between terri's EX-husband and her parents, her parents got less due process than did morales.
and i am arguing that rapist murderers shoud be executed in a way which is not "cruel AND unusual" (NOT CRUEL ***OR**** UNUSUAL), which is to say that he should be executed in a way which is the norm for the state and the way which is standard and to be expected.
each condemned person should NOT have an execution form which is tailored to his or her crimes, or state of mind/being; iow: "unusual."
some incidental pain in and of itself is not "cruel AND unusual." it is to be expected by any sane person. the expected pain and loss of life is part of the prven deterrent value of the penalty - not to mention paret of the sense of JUSTICE which occurs when the penalty is meted out. especiallyt with SCUM like morales.
thanks for commenting!
all the best!
You ask some interesting (but mostly rhetoric) questions about Leftism and their opposition to the death penalty. The simple answer is that Leftists are driven by two overriding emotions that preclude logic. The first is that in order to come down for or against something, one must choose whichever can be shown to make one feel better. The second is that of moral relativism. Leftists truly believe that there are no absolute rights and wrongs so anything can be forgiven and no punishment should be too harsh.
ReplyDeleteAdd these two drivers up and you get their "rationale." It doesn't feel good to execute a murderer because even if what he did was wrong, it wasn't all that wrong considering his childhood, abusive parents, racial discrimination, etc. etc. See you have to feel guilty that society brought this down on themselves and it would by unfair to execute the guy who was just responding to societal pressures. But find a legal loophole to stop the execution - now that feels really good!