Although I've always tried to be pleasant to the Christian Right folks even where we disagree, I really think it's best if I don't weigh in right now.
Well, I always hope that people can disagree without being disagreeable. The people who can't usually wind up losing.
You know that the nasty folks [folks who attack Glenn's stand on the Schiavo case] are unrepresentative, but they're so damned energetic about it that it's hard to keep that in mind at times.
I don't think that they're [the Schindler supporters] nascent Mullah Omars, and I think that calling them that just makes the problem worse. This is a tragedy, and it's become a circus. Name-calling just makes you one of the clowns. [Emphasis added.]
But Glenn has been nasty, too. Glenn has called conservatives and the devout bad names.
HERE ARE JUST A FEW RECENT EXAMPLES OF GLENN'S NASTY NAME-CALLING:
"If you don't want to be confused with a movement led by theocrats, don't let actual theocrats be seen as your spokesmen. It may be impossible to shut Randall Terry up -- though if I were Karl Rove, I would have tried really hard -- but he needs to be loudly and regularly denounced as a nut."
"As I said about the antiwar people, you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas. Randall Terry's a dog.""I think that first crack is unfair to the snake-handlers."
"... not rushing to overturn all the rules because we don't like the outcome, seems to me to be part of being a member of civilized society rather than a mob. As I say, I thought conservatives knew this."
So when Glenn complains about the name-calling he's been the target of, it's a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. This makes Glenn Reynolds a HYPOCRITE, and a weenie. And a nasty clown - to borrow HIS words, HIS characterization.
HEY GLENN: If you can’t stand the heat, then get out of the blogosphere! HEH! Indeed.
I'm with you on the Shiavo tragedy and I agree with you that Instapundit's position on the issue is not necessarily consistent with his stand against capital punishment. I have more thoughts on why Glenn's divergent views are not necessarily hypocritical on my own blog.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, I think your post distorts his remarks. Yes, he called Randall Terry a nut and a dog and compared him unfavorably to snake-handlers. Glenn most certainly did NOT, however, refer to all "Schindler supporters" that way as you claim. You can rightly criticize Glenn for name-calling but, for the sake of truth, don't twist the target of his words to include all of us who supported Terri Shiavo's right to live.
As for Glenn's "mob" comment, he doesn't by any stretch "essentially call conservatives a mob". He rightly points out that there's an established legal process to follow and throwing it out the window is a mob-like behavior. Whether anyone actually threw the process out the window is an arguable point. I, like you, don't believe that's what actually happened. But there are certainly people out there who would have loved to see the process chucked and law enforcement officers (or citizens themselves) move in and take control, as in the Elian Gonzalez debacle. It's the frantic energy that throws rules out the window which defines the mob mentality. I don't think that necessarily describes you but you probably don't do yourself any favors by distorting Glenn's comments.
That said, thanks for taking a strong stand on the Shiavo case itself. Your blog kept a lot of people informed and focused on what is right: life.
Citizen Z
http://citizenz.blogharbor.com/
nicely said Z-man, but glenn was calling us all names by extension.
ReplyDeleteAnd anyhow, he was criticizing NAME-CALLING in general, and then goes and does it.
it matters not that he name-called randall or us all - it is name-calling.
THAT IS PURE HYPOCRISY ON GLENN'S PART. Unquestionably. Irrefutably. Blatant. Hypocrisy.
Rather outrageous when you think about it.
AND TERRIBLY PHONY.
Love your blog.
Glad you stopped by.
BTW Z-man: Glenndoes call ALL conservatives a mob - artfully.
ReplyDeleteHe wrote that he though conservatives were above mob behavior (snidely implying that we are not, after all).
you may choose to see it another way.
I am a native english speaker and i know what he said and what it means.
glenn wrote:
ReplyDelete"though if I were Karl Rove, I would have tried really hard"
implying in deceitfully snarky way, that all conservatives are implicated in whatever randall terry does or deosnt do.
BTW: he was selected to help by the schindlers, not rove.
this kind of snarky "have your cake and it too" backhanded way of criticizing thr Right is sickening and unfair.
and it DOES make glenn a hypocrite.
glenn wrote:
ReplyDeleteWell, I always hope that people can disagree without being disagreeable. The people who can't usually wind up losing.
You know that the nasty folks [folks who attack Glenn's stand on the Schiavo case] are unrepresentative, but they're so damned energetic about it that it's hard to keep that in mind at times.
I don't think that they're [the Schindler supporters] nascent Mullah Omars, and I think that calling them that just makes the problem worse. This is a tragedy, and it's become a circus. Name-calling just makes you one of the clowns.
and then he calls randall terry names and implicates us all as if we were responsible for him being therr - or as if rove wwas.
this is oure HYPOCRISY.